The Commercials, an interesting read

[_Darth J]

When I return home (I am out of state right now) I will be happy to supply you with what you request.

But, to temporarily satisfy you now, I have written about:

The 1826 trial
The Character of Joseph Smith
A book review of "No Man Knows My History"
A book review of "Rough Stone Rolling"

And a few others that I cannot remember at the moment.

None of these are published.

Okay, so you must be able to explain some specific facts about what in the OP is not true, even if you don't like the tone.

Go ahead.

[_Simon Belmont]

Okay, so you must be able to explain some specific facts about what in the OP is not true, even if you don't like the tone.

Go ahead.

It is very over simplified and paints an anti-Mormon caricature of Joseph Smith. Anyone can use words and tone to make a good individual seem evil, or an evil individual seem good.

My problem is not only with this particular post, it's will nearly every one of Joseph Inc.'s posts.

[_Jersey Girl]

Okay, Darth J and Jersey Girl:

I am sure you both can understand my caution in revealing, for example, my real name or institutional affiliation. Likewise, I do not want to type out an entire abstract, since I do not have the digital files where I am at the moment.

Producing the papers was not what I required of Joseph Inc., and it should not be required of me. I simply wanted to know if he or she knew anything about Joseph Smith, because he or she obviously has a lot of anger and hatred for JSmith. Anger that I believe, that is entirely misplaced.

Let me put this delicately. I don't give a rats azz about Joseph or what Joseph writes. Apparently, you do.

In response to Joseph's OP, you made the following comments:

Please list for us every book you've read about Joseph Smith.
I guarantee I've read more.

Please list for us every research paper you've written about Joseph Smith.
I guarantee I've written more.

If you want to shift focus to Joseph, alright fine. Nowhere did Joseph make a claim regarding how many books he's read or research papers he's written about Joseph Smith.

YOU made the claim. You made the claim and wrapped it up in a bold guarantee.

I'm looking for indications of integrity/character/wisdom and that's all I'm looking for. Period.

[_Markk]

Okay, so you must be able to explain some specific facts about what in the OP is not true, even if you don't like the tone.

Go ahead.

It is very over simplified and paints an anti-Mormon caricature of Joseph Smith. Anyone can use words and tone to make a good individual seem evil, or an evil individual seem good.

My problem is not only with this particular post, it's will nearly every one of Joseph Inc.'s posts.

Do you believe the LDS church over the years have painted an accurate caricature of Joseph Smith?

Thanks
MG

[_Darth J]

Okay, so you must be able to explain some specific facts about what in the OP is not true, even if you don't like the tone.

Go ahead.

It is very over simplified and paints an anti-Mormon caricature of Joseph Smith. Anyone can use words and tone to make a good individual seem evil, or an evil individual seem good.

My problem is not only with this particular post, it's will nearly every one of Joseph Inc.'s posts.

WHAT FACTUAL ASSERTIONS IN THE OP ARE NOT TRUE?

[_Simon Belmont]

If you want to shift focus to Joseph, all right fine. Nowhere did Joseph make a claim regarding how many books he's read or research papers he's written about Joseph Smith.

I think that if you are going to post snide remarks about a historical person that other people hold sacred, then you should know something about that person instead of repeating what other critics say. I asked what he knew, and he hasn't replied.

YOU made the claim. You made the claim and wrapped it up in a bold guarantee.

Yes, and I just asked for a list. It was not my intention to have Joseph Inc. send me any actual writings of his (hint: he has none).

I listed some of the writings of mine.

I'm looking for indications of integrity/character/wisdom and that's all I'm looking for. Period.

You will not find these qualities in Joseph Inc.

[_Doctor Scratch]

Simon Belmont is stunningly dishonest. He went from claiming to have penned multiple "research papers" on Joseph Smith, to admitting that, in fact, not a one of them has been published. Then, he claimed that he was unwilling to post any of these amateur efforts because they were on paper, as if he'd written them with his trusty old Royal, or something. *Then*, we learn that, in fact, these aren't necessarily "research papers" at all, and that in fact, at least two of them are "book reviews"! Not only that, but Simon does actually have e-files of them somewhere.... It's just that he's out of town. Lol. I don't know that I've ever seen anyone's sockpuppet implode so swiftly. I daresay that Belmont's credibility will never recover from this. What a pity.

[_Simon Belmont]

WHAT FACTUAL ASSERTIONS IN THE OP ARE NOT TRUE?

They are all not giving the entire story.

[_Simon Belmont]

Simon Belmont is stunningly dishonest. He went from claiming to have penned multiple "research papers" on Joseph Smith, to admitting that, in fact, not a one of them has been published. Then, he claimed that he was unwilling to post any of these amateur efforts because they were on paper, as if he'd written them with his trusty old Royal, or something. *Then*, we learn that, in fact, these aren't necessarily "research papers" at all, and that in fact, at least two of them are "book reviews"! Not only that, but Simon does actually have e-files of them somewhere.... It's just that he's out of town. Lol. I don't know that I've ever seen anyone's sockpuppet implode so swiftly. I daresay that Belmont's credibility will never recover from this. What a pity.

Again, I do not understand your hostility.

I have written multiple research papers. Nowhere did I claim they were published.
I do, in fact, have one on paper with me that I will run down to the hotel lobby and copy and mail to anyone who wishes.
Two of the ones that came to mind were book reviews, yes.

So, please point out where I was being dishonest.

[_Darth J]

I only have one wife...I'm completely normal in that way...you know....just having one wife...who is for sure way older than 14 years old.

There's one lie about Joseph Smith in the OP. The above statement is false.

When I was younger I bounced between jobs, gold digger, glass looker

It might be more accurate to call him a "treasure seeker" than a "gold digger." And "treasure seeker" and "glass looker" overlap quite a bit, so those aren't necessarily different jobs.

I started a small bank......that didn't go so well...for the depositors anyway he he he

The Kirtland Safety Society was a quasi-bank and did not have a bank charter, as did many other such institutions at the time in Ohio. Also, Joseph Smith personally lost money when the KSS failed, so the "he he he" is misplaced.

and I even bought an Egyptian mummy

Actually, Joseph Smith bought four mummies from Michael Chandler, not just one.

Anything else not true, Simon?