marg wrote:Obviously you don't see yourself adhering to a biased highly speculative conspiracy theory and yet you do Trevor. For you to reject all the evidence and witness statements over the span of many years, many of them unconnected with one another yet supportive of a Spalding manuscript necessitates that you believe all those many witnesses conspired against Mormonism and the Book of Mormon for no apparent personal gain at a time when Mormonism was an unimportant religion with a very small membership and had virtually no affect if any on their lives and not something they continued to pursue personally. So your theory is they all conspired, then essentially dropped their interest in continuing the conspiracy ...but according to you in this case it was an actual conspiracy apparently which you think well warranted to theorize.
Yes, well, marg, the difference between the two of us is that you are happy to engage in a lot of hand-waving because you are convinced that all of this
must mean what you and your fellow Spaldingites are convinced it means, whereas I am still waiting to see where the rubber meets the road. Where is the evidence that convincingly places Joseph Smith and Sidney Rigdon together before and during the composition of the Book of Mormon?
I don't like fabricated missing manuscripts, and I also don't care for the meetings between Joseph and Sidney that we think had to have happened for our theory to be true. I want the manuscript or at least some convincing eyewitness testimony of its existence, just like I want the evidence that shows the early Rigdon-Smith connection. And that is just one of many problems.
We could have our usual gymnastic exercise about all of this, which will end in the usual mutual expressions of disdain, but I prefer to skip all of that, if you don't mind. We're not getting anywhere with each other on this topic. That much is obvious.
marg wrote:What does "inspired translation" mean? That sounds highly speculative Trevor. Are you saying that Smith was inspired by a God? If not, then why even use the word "inspired"? In what other sense are you intending that word to be taken as? He saw the papyri, and claimed he could translate it..what does inspiration have to do with anything? The evidence is he couldn't translate it.
Marg, meet thews; thews, meet marg. I have to be careful what I say, because the word police are out sniffing out any foul odor of my crypto-Mormon-ness.
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