zeezrom wrote:I never thought of the Mormon church as discouraging a personal relationship with God. Maybe we could say the church discourages making your personal relationship more important than your connection with someone else's relationship with God (e.g. TS Monson's). Sorry Simon, but you were the one who brought up this idea of God needing to work through men.
1. There is no such thing as "The Mormon Church."
2. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints strongly encourages personal relationships with God, and personal revelation for one's stewardship.
3. God helps others through people. This is a separate thing.
And zeezrom, perhaps you would like to launch a thread about this topic?
AtticusFinch wrote:He was a fraud. He started early making people believe he could find treasure. He got in trouble with the law and looked for the next scam. He found it in religion.
Unless you can present some semblance of knowledge about the topic of this thread, I would recommending sneering elsewhere.
If you choose to remain on this thread, then CFR for your above claims.
Tarski wrote:You systematically refuse to even consider the most obvious answer: God did not command Joseph Smith to practice polygamy.
As I have said before, I have researched Joseph Smith for most of my life. I find him an honorable and sincere man, who made mistakes like we all do. I believe God commanded limited polygamy for the early saints.
What undisputable fact on the record does not fit with that hypothesis?
AtticusFinch wrote:He was a fraud. He started early making people believe he could find treasure. He got in trouble with the law and looked for the next scam. He found it in religion.
Unless you can present some semblance of knowledge about the topic of this thread, I would recommending sneering elsewhere.
I have plenty of knowledge...and not YOUR whitewashed version. And speaking truth is not sneering, so ease up on your ignorant comments.
If you choose to remain on this thread, then CFR for your above claims.
I will post how I want. You are LDS, that means if you dislike me, you will ban me if you have that power. If you do not have the power, then your petty power trip means nothing.
Or, you could call for my death...LDS leaders were great at that.
“What really goes on in the minds of Church leadership who know of the the truth. It would devastate the Church if a top leader were to announce the facts.” Thomas Ferguson, Mormon archaeologist
oh wait...YOU were the one with the silly analogy of comparing seeing God with seeing something while driving.
lol....that explains your anger
“What really goes on in the minds of Church leadership who know of the the truth. It would devastate the Church if a top leader were to announce the facts.” Thomas Ferguson, Mormon archaeologist
Simon Belmont wrote:1. There is no such thing as "The Mormon Church."
Yes, the Mormon Church ceased to exist when its leaders quit calling it "The Mormon Church."
“I was hooked from the start,” Snoop Dogg said. “We talked about the purpose of life, played Mousetrap, and ate brownies. The kids thought it was off the hook, for real.”
Simon Belmont wrote: He was, nonetheless, a prophet of God.
You state this not as your opinion, but as if it was a fact. On what do you base this conclusion?
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
Simon Belmont wrote:As I have said before, I have researched Joseph Smith for most of my life.
Then you missed a few things.
I find him an honorable and sincere man, who made mistakes like we all do.
Well, we know you aren't much of a judge of the character of men.
I believe God commanded limited polygamy for the early saints.
You're entitled to be wrong, just like everyone else.
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.