Joseph Smith Megathread

[_Simon Belmont]

You state this not as your opinion, but as if it was a fact. On what do you base this conclusion?

it is my opinion, based on a lifetime of study and research.

[_Simon Belmont]

Well, we know you aren't much of a judge of the character of men.

How do "we" know this?

[_Joseph]

simone blowhard writes: "Joseph Smith did not lie. He only had one legal wife, although he was sealed to many women. As I have said before, these sealings were probably not sexual in nature. He loved Emma, she was his wife and his true love."

And I have never killed anyone even though shooting an M16, an 81mm mortar and a beautiful Remington . They died on their own.

What a beautiful thing blinders can be simone. Maybe you will find some stupid enough to believe this crap.

As for Joseph and the women. The purpose of plural marriage was to raise 'righteous seed' to TheLard. Given that 'TheLard does not give commandments but which he provides a way to fulfill them(or some such)", why command plural marrige for righteous seed and then keep Joseph from producing the rugrats?

You are dumber than a pet rock.

[_harmony]

Well, we know you aren't much of a judge of the character of men.

How do "we" know this?

We know this, because your judgment of Joseph Smith is so flawed. If you can't be trusted to know what kind of man Joseph Smith was, your trustworthiness in character judgment of others is equally suspect.

[_Simon Belmont]

We know this, because your judgment of Joseph Smith is so flawed. If you can't be trusted to know what kind of man Joseph Smith was, your trustworthiness in character judgment of others is equally suspect.

Well I was not there, and you were not there. It is impossible to precisely judge a historical person. All we have are writings.

[_harmony]

it is my opinion, based on a lifetime of study and research.

There is a difference between saying: "Joseph Smith was a prophet". and saying "In my opinion, Joseph Smith was a prophet".

I'll refrain from commenting on your research skills.

[_Simon Belmont]

simone blowhard writes: "Joseph Smith did not lie. He only had one legal wife, although he was sealed to many women. As I have said before, these sealings were probably not sexual in nature. He loved Emma, she was his wife and his true love."

And I have never killed anyone even though shooting an M16, an 81mm mortar and a beautiful Remington . They died on their own.

Did you shoot it directly at them? Was it during a battle in the middle east? Did you purposefully pull the trigger? Were you commanded by God to pull the trigger?

[_madeleine]

I think it is funny stuff when Mormons say Smith's sealing weren't marriages.

They were recognized marriages in the Church, they were not all legal marriages. There is no evidence that Joseph thought of anyone other than Emma as his one true love.

Your point? Did Smith believe he was married to all his wives or not?

If he didn't love all the women he married, then yes, he was using them. Some say for sex. Others say for something else. Either way, God does not ask people to use each other, for any purpose.

Could be the worst "reasoning" for polygamy I've seen yet.

[_harmony]

Well I was not there, and you were not there. It is impossible to precisely judge a historical person. All we have are writings.

Then based on the historical record, you're saying Hitler wasn't evil? Mussolini wasn't evil? Ghengis Khan was just kidding? David Koresh and Jim Jones were just misunderstood?

Do you realize the implications of what you just wrote?

[Guest]

You state this not as your opinion, but as if it was a fact. On what do you base this conclusion?

it is my opinion, based on a lifetime of study and research.

Then your bar is pretty low for who can be prophets. Do you ignore his illegal treasure seeking? Do you ignore his false prophesies? Do you ignore his bank fraud? Do you ignore his unfaithfulness? Do you ignore his law breaking? Do you ignore the fact his alleged scriptures have no basis in fact?

And before you respond, I was once LDS, I know all the weak apologetic answers to these questions....