Hinckley Testifies of Mormons Worshiping J Smith

[_Joseph]

All that matters is the official name, the name that is on paper.

The name that is on paper is there to satisfy Government registration requirements.

Where in the Book of Mormon or Bible is "Latter Day Saints" or even "Former Day Saints" or similar written or discussed?
LDSinc has so many damn lawyers and PR people it can't keep anything straight and this started at the beginning with The Church of Christ... which they had to change because it was stolen from another group. (a habit Joseph never really got away from)

Morgbutt, you would make a great early day Catholic aruging about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin as you can't find your butt in the bathroom.

[_Simon Belmont]

All that matters is the official name, the name that is on paper.

The name that is on paper is there to satisfy Government registration requirements.

Where in the Book of Mormon or Bible is "Latter Day Saints" or even "Former Day Saints" or similar written or discussed?
LDSinc has so many damn lawyers and PR people it can't keep anything straight and this started at the beginning with The Church of Christ... which they had to change because it was stolen from another group. (a habit Joseph never really got away from)

Morgbutt, you would make a great early day Catholic aruging about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin as you can't find your butt in the bathroom.

Off topic. You are welcome to start such a thread, although I recommend against it -- you will be throughly lambasted.

[_Kishkumen]

Off topic. You are welcome to start such a thread, although I recommend against it -- you will be throughly lambasted.

Wonderful demonstration, professor Belmont. A real Mopologist could have done no better.

Observe that, even though the discussion has wandered far from the OP, and the professor apparently had no problem with that, he has now accused his interlocutor and is policing the thread as though the OP were his and he wanted to keep it on track, when in reality he is merely trying to shape the thread according to his own preferences.

Fantastic work, professor. The more you model Mopologetic behavior for us, the more we benefit from your research.

[_Simon Belmont]

Off topic. You are welcome to start such a thread, although I recommend against it -- you will be throughly lambasted.

Wonderful demonstration, professor Belmont. A real Mopologist could have done no better.

Observe that, even though the discussion has wandered far from the OP, and the professor apparently had no problem with that, he has now accused his interlocutor and is policing the thread as though the OP were his and he wanted to keep it on track, when in reality he is merely trying to shape the thread according to his own preferences.

Fantastic work, professor. The more you model Mopologetic behavior for us, the more we benefit from your research.

I am not an apologist, and I am not a "mopologist"; I am not in training to become either. I am simply an educated Latter-day Saint.

[_Sophocles]

I have never heard anyone verbally say, when asked, "I belong to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints." We usually refer to ourselves as Mormons, or LDS.

Glad to hear that the church's indoctrination efforts in that regard don't seem to be bearing fruit...

[_Kishkumen]

I am not an apologist, and I am not a "mopologist"; I am not in training to become either. I am simply an educated Latter-day Saint.

Whoa, professor! Slow down. Too many lessons without any signposts is disorienting.

Again, brilliant. We would expect nothing less from one of our colleagues at Cassius, but remember that the student body is not always capable of following the quick movements of your mind from lesson to lesson.

For the benefit of those that did not follow Dr. Belmont's thought processes here, he is now demonstrating that an educated LDS person is capable of acting like an apologist, sometimes behaving like a Mopologist, but may then seek refuge in the denial that he or she is anything other than a concerned and informed member of the LDS faith.

Bravissimo, professore!

[_Simon Belmont]

Whoa, professor! Slow down. Too many lessons without any signposts is disorienting.

Again, brilliant. We would expect nothing less from one of our colleagues at Cassius, but remember that the student body is not always capable of following the quick movements of your mind from lesson to lesson.

For the benefit of those that did not follow Dr. Belmont's thought processes here, he is now demonstrating that an educated LDS person is capable of acting like an apologist, sometimes behaving like a Mopologist, but may then seek refuge in the denial that he or she is anything other than a concerned and informed member of the LDS faith.

Bravissimo, professore!

I find it more effective to speak and to write to students in a way that they can understand. I judge their understanding by their demeanor in communicating with me. For example, if they are aggressive and rude (Atticus Finch), or condescending and insufferably ignorant (Joseph, Polygamy-Porter, and schreech) I find it more effective to mimic their attitudes -- like speaking to monkeys in their own tongue.

Conversely, when people are respectful and polite, you will notice that I am very respectful and polite as well. I have never, for example, acted as a "mopologist" toward you.

[_schreech]

Who cares? I already showed you that you don't have a monopoly on being CALLED the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints...asshat....

I have never heard anyone verbally say, when asked, "I belong to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints." We usually refer to ourselves as Mormons, or LDS.

Likewise, I am sure that Strangites refer, verbally, to themselves as Strangites, or Mormons.

All that matters is the official name, the name that is on paper.

In which case we are the only church called "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints."

Unless you can show me another church with that exact name.

The following do not meet the requirements:

Aaronic Order.
Apostolic United Brethren.
Church of Christ (Fetting/Bronson).
Church of Christ (Temple Lot).
The Church of Christ "With The Elijah Message."
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Strangite)
Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonite).
The Community of Christ.
United Order Effort.
The Restoration Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.

ah....got it, in other words you admit you were wrong when you said the SLC Mormons had a "monopoly" on CALLING themselves the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints as i showed you - now you have changed it to the "name that is on paper" ...lol - here, where it proudly:



Also, i guess i imagined when my mission president told us that SLC had declared that we were no longer to call ourselves "Mormons" but were to CALL ourselves by the proper name of the church "the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints" (he didn't specify if we needed to mention the hyphen).

"Likewise, I am sure that Strangites refer, verbally, to themselves as Strangites, or Mormons."

- and i am sure you have no idea what you are talking about (no surprise there) and you are attempting (unsuccessfully) to save some face here (although i am not really sure why you would care considering you don't really have any face to save). Thanks for the laughs...

[_Simon Belmont]

ah....got it, in other words you admit you were wrong when you said the SLC Mormons had a "monopoly" on CALLING themselves the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints as i showed you - now you have changed it to the "name that is on paper" ...lol - here, where it proudly:

What does "calling" mean to you? Does the term limit itself to verbal identities only? When I said "calling" it would have, by any intelligent being, been understood as "being referred to as" which can mean paper, vocalizations, hieroglyphs, papyri, etc. If you do not understand what this term means, you are arguing from a position of complete ignorance.

Also, i guess i imagined when my mission president told us that SLC had declared that we were no longer to call ourselves "Mormons" but were to CALL ourselves by the proper name of the church "the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints" (he didn't specify if we needed to mention the hyphen).

And you also, incorrectly I might add, imagine that you saying "my mission president" gives you any credibility whatsoever. I do not care.

- and i am sure you have no idea what you are talking about (no surprise there) and you are attempting (unsuccessfully) to save some face here (although i am not really sure why you would care considering you don't really have any face to save). Thanks for the laughs...

Have you met a Strangite? Please tell me how much you've studied this particular religious sect.

[_schreech]

ah....got it, in other words you admit you were wrong when you said the SLC Mormons had a "monopoly" on CALLING themselves the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints as i showed you - now you have changed it to the "name that is on paper" ...lol - here, where it proudly:

What does "calling" mean to you? Does the term limit itself to verbal identities only? When I said "calling" it would have, by any intelligent being, been understood as "being referred to as" which can mean paper, vocalizations, hieroglyphs, papyri, etc. If you do not understand what this term means, you are arguing from a position of complete ignorance.

Also, i guess i imagined when my mission president told us that SLC had declared that we were no longer to call ourselves "Mormons" but were to CALL ourselves by the proper name of the church "the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints" (he didn't specify if we needed to mention the hyphen).

And you also, incorrectly I might add, imagine that you saying "my mission president" gives you any credibility whatsoever. I do not care.

- and i am sure you have no idea what you are talking about (no surprise there) and you are attempting (unsuccessfully) to save some face here (although i am not really sure why you would care considering you don't really have any face to save). Thanks for the laughs...

Have you met a Strangite? Please tell me how much you've studied this particular religious sect.

Idiot - you said you have a "monopoly" on being CALLED (with no qualifiers) a member of the chruch of Jesus Christ of latter day saints....you were wrong (as usual), quit being an asshat...