Hinckley Testifies of Mormons Worshiping J Smith

[_Simon Belmont]

Idiot - you said you have a "monopoly" on being CALLED (with no qualifiers) a member of the chruch of Jesus Christ of latter day saints....you were wrong (as usual), quit being an asshat...

It appears that you have a different definition of "called" then most. Perhaps we should turn to the dictionary in this case.

to speak of or address by a specified name : give a name to <call her Kitty>

Take a few moments to read that definition about four times so that you can grasp it. Note that is says "to speak of or address by a specified name. When you address something, it can be verbal, it can be on paper, it can be in thought, it can be a multitude of things.

So yes, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has a monopoly on being called The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

[_schreech]

Idiot - you said you have a "monopoly" on being CALLED (with no qualifiers) a member of the chruch of Jesus Christ of latter day saints....you were wrong (as usual), quit being an asshat...

It appears that you have a different definition of "called" then most. Perhaps we should turn to the dictionary in this case.

to speak of or address by a specified name : give a name to <call her Kitty>

Take a few moments to read that definition about four times so that you can grasp it. Note that is says "to speak of or address by a specified name. When you address something, it can be verbal, it can be on paper, it can be in thought, it can be a multitude of things.

So yes, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has a monopoly on being called The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Elohim you are a tool - when you "speak" the name of the church you say the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints....when a strangite "speaks" the name of their church they say the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints therefore you call yourselves the same thing thus negating the "monopoly" you claimed...asshat.

by the way - I prayed to elohim and he confirmed that you are both wrong AND an asshat therefore i know its true....discussion over...

[_Kishkumen]

I find it more effective to speak and to write to students in a way that they can understand. I judge their understanding by their demeanor in communicating with me. For example, if they are aggressive and rude (Atticus Finch), or condescending and insufferably ignorant (Joseph, Polygamy-Porter, and schreech) I find it more effective to mimic their attitudes -- like speaking to monkeys in their own tongue.

Conversely, when people are respectful and polite, you will notice that I am very respectful and polite as well. I have never, for example, acted as a "mopologist" toward you.

Interesting theory, professor. I suppose that Lacanian apologetic theorists would be inclined to agree with you. I was never partial to Lacan, but that should not restrain you, of course.

I appreciate that you return my politeness with politeness. Would that this were ever the case among academic colleagues.

[_Eric]

Rev. Kishkumen for the win.

[_Darth J]

President Hinckley could not possibly have been unaware of the larger Mormon movement, nor that all of the various sects claim to be "the real Mormons." His statement is nothing but PR spin to make it look like these polygamist clans in the news have no connection to the same foundational source as the LDS Church, and that is not true.

The LDS Church desperately wants to be included among "Christian" churches and whines that other denominations don't get to define what "Christian" is, but the Church also wants to define what "Mormonism" is such that the CoC, the Strangites, Bickeronites, FLDS, Nephite Church of Christ, etc., all of whom believe in Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon, aren't "Mormons."

It does not matter what he knows or does not know about the "larger Mormon movement." He believes, as do I, that the only Mormons are those members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Likewise, it would not matter if another sect which claims to be "real Mormons" said something to the effect of: "Polygamy is true doctrine and anyone who doesn't practice it is not a true Mormon." For them, that is true doctrine. For us, it is not.

Then by the same token, the LDS Church should stop complaining when people say that Mormons are not Christians. It does not matter what mainstream traditional Christians know or do not know about LDS Christology. They believe that true Christians do not include members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Likewise, it does not matter if the LDS Church claims to be "real Christians" and says something to the effect of: "We believe in Jesus so we are true Christians." For the LDS Church, their particular form of Christology makes them Christian. For a great many mainstream traditional Christians, it does not.

[_Simon Belmont]

Then by the same token, the LDS Church should stop complaining when people say that Mormons are not Christians. It does not matter what mainstream traditional Christians know or do not know about LDS Christology. They believe that true Christians do not include members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Likewise, it does not matter if the LDS Church claims to be "real Christians" and says something to the effect of: "We believe in Jesus so we are true Christians." For the LDS Church, their particular form of Christology makes them Christian. For a great many mainstream traditional Christians, it does not.

The complaining has shown to be, and will continue to be fruitless. We are Christians, and serious Christians accept us as such.

Your point?

[_Simon Belmont]

Rev. Kishkumen for the win.

I don't get it.

[_Simon Belmont]

Elohim you are a tool - when you "speak" the name of the church you say the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints....when a strangite "speaks" the name of their church they say the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints therefore you call yourselves the same thing thus negating the "monopoly" you claimed...asshat.

by the way - I prayed to elohim and he confirmed that you are both wrong AND an asshat therefore i know its true....discussion over...

Such simplicity is lost on you. I will give you the definition again:

To speak of or address by a specified name : give a name to <call her Kitty>

Read it, internalize it, think about its meaning for at least a moment.

I do not care about "speaking" I care about what it is "called."

Again, read the definition.

And again, you have never met a Strangite.

If you are unable to engage in such a sophisticated conversation, I suggest you visit crayola.com.

[_Darth J]

Then by the same token, the LDS Church should stop complaining when people say that Mormons are not Christians. It does not matter what mainstream traditional Christians know or do not know about LDS Christology. They believe that true Christians do not include members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Likewise, it does not matter if the LDS Church claims to be "real Christians" and says something to the effect of: "We believe in Jesus so we are true Christians." For the LDS Church, their particular form of Christology makes them Christian. For a great many mainstream traditional Christians, it does not.

The complaining has shown to be, and will continue to be fruitless. We are Christians, and serious Christians accept us as such.

Your point?

Your intractable and consistent double standard is the point.

It's okay, Simon. Had I been here about a year and a half ago, my posts may have looked a lot like yours.

[_Simon Belmont]

Your intractable and consistent double standard is the point.

It's okay, Simon. Had I been here about a year and a half ago, my posts may have looked a lot like yours.

My double standard?

I know you are a N.O.M. -- you attend church, raise your children in it, but do not believe its teachings.

And again, what is it with you and the Dark Side?