Is it healthy for a TBM spouse to "drop it" or "let it go?"

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_Aristotle Smith
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Re: Is it healthy for a TBM spouse to stop worrying?

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Yahoo Bot wrote:
zeezrom wrote:Where does The Prophet Joseph Smith Jr. fit in this scenario?

The reason I bring this question up is due to his conduct in and around the publication of the polygamy scandal.

I also think about his references to know how to translate Egyptian in light of the Facsimiles.

Not trying to dredge up issues for lively debate. I'm sincerely curious how people might actually think Joseph Smith was not trying to be deceptive.


I have answered your question. If you think that lies, deception and hypocrisies are justified because you think others have done them before you, then you are not likely to be good husband, a reliable employee or a good citizen.


Well that disqualifies, Joseph Smith. And Brigham Young. And John Taylor. And Wilford Woodruff. And most of the Qof12 from 1890-1910. And that's just off the top of my head. You speak wise words Yahoo Bot.
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Aristotle Smith wrote:Well that disqualifies, Joseph Smith. And Brigham Young. And John Taylor. And Wilford Woodruff. And most of the Qof12 from 1890-1910. And that's just off the top of my head. You speak wise words Yahoo Bot.


One more poster who thinks that lying to his wife and deceiving others is justified because others have done it.
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harmony wrote:
zeezrom wrote:Who said this is asking for marital advice?! Did I say that? You assume this scenario is me. Lol.

Harmony., what is potf?


Proclamation on the Family. My favorite lining for the bird cage.

Such class...why believe anything; right?
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Yahoo Bot wrote:One more poster who thinks that lying to his wife and deceiving others is justified because others have done it.

Vaweee Vaweee Twiicky Mr. Yahoo.

But still fuzzy. So warm and fuzzy. Aaaaahhh. Thank you Mr. Yahoo.
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Just take it from me. Be honest to your wife. Be honest to your friends. Don't do things inconsistently with what you think and believe. You are in the same boat as many many others. You are not alone. Honesty will only resolve things, not make them worse.
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Yahoo Bot wrote:
Aristotle Smith wrote:Well that disqualifies, Joseph Smith. And Brigham Young. And John Taylor. And Wilford Woodruff. And most of the Qof12 from 1890-1910. And that's just off the top of my head. You speak wise words Yahoo Bot.


One more poster who thinks that lying to his wife and deceiving others is justified because others have done it.


No, that's why I am leaving the church and joining another denomination. My wife knows my position. In fact if those folks I mentioned had been a bit more honest it might have made it possible for me to stay in the church as a NOM of sorts. Just remember Yahoo Bot, it's you who are going to continue to sing "Praise to the Man" about a man who banged tons of chicks and lied through his teeth about it until the day he died.
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Aristotle Smith wrote:
No, that's why I am leaving the church and joining another denomination. My wife knows my position. In fact if those folks I mentioned had been a bit more honest it might have made it possible for me to stay in the church as a NOM of sorts. Just remember Yahoo Bot, it's you who are going to continue to sing "Praise to the Man" about a man who banged tons of chicks and lied through his teeth about it until the day he died.


Then you are acting in a manner Zeezrom doesn't want to do. And, I admire your decision. Most here who trash the Church also deride Christianity. Hang in there with Jesus.

Where exactly is the best proof of me "sing[ing] 'Praise to the Man'"? You've confused me for somebody else. I am here to comment on specific matters, not to beat anybody's drum.
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Aristotle Smith wrote:No, that's why I am leaving the church and joining another denomination.

Which one, if you don't mind me asking?
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Yahoo Bot wrote:Then you are acting in a manner Zeezrom doesn't want to do.

Yahoo. Um, did I inform anyone about my manner of acting in a situation like this (which by the way is very different from my actual situation)? This is not my situation.

I'm not going to tell everyone where my own my wife is on this stuff. She is a member of this board and can tell you if she wishes.

Maybe it doesn't matter how many times I tell everyone this is not my own personal situation. ....sigh...

I will tell you where I am. I obviously don't believe but still maintain 87.1% activity and that percentage is slowly dropping as time goes on. My attendance in bishopric meeting is 94.9% because I have specific commitments in that meeting that I feel personally responsible for. The members of the bishopric are my friends who I enjoy associating with. I was taught not to go against the church all my life. I have been a member of a cult. Now, I'm not saying the church is a cult. I'm saying my own relationship with the church was similar to an individual's relationship with a cult. I was raised that way. Now I'm trying to think of a way out and it is sort of hard but it will come. I have faith it will come. I just need some time that's all. I don't see a reason to rush through it all. If someone asked me if I believe in the church I'M NOT GOING TO THINK, "BOY WHAT WOULD JOE DO." AND THEN LIE TO THEM. I would tell them the truth.

Maybe you and I should go have a court room debate to battle it out to the end, Mr. Yahoo. You have a law degree and I don't but I'm still willing to give it a try. I'll bring my copy of the Constitution and Amendments.

Thank you,

Zee.
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Re: Is it healthy for a TBM spouse to stop worrying?

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Yahoo Bot wrote:Where exactly is the best proof of me "sing[ing] 'Praise to the Man'"? You've confused me for somebody else. I am here to comment on specific matters, not to beat anybody's drum.


I always think it best to trade unsubstantiated assumptions with more unsubstantiated assumptions.
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