Simon Belmont: This is what "quote mining" means

[_Runtu]

I'm not an apologist.

Nope, but you seem to be president of the apologist fan club.

[_Tchild]

I'm not an apologist.

No, nothing but a nonsubstantive, evasive, no-answer kind of guy. You would make a stellar general authority. The church needs non-thinking leaders just like you....if only you had some leadership qualities.

A mission might have helped you develop leadership. Maybe in the spirit world?

[_Darth J]

I'm not an apologist.

Irrelevant. You are resorting to the apologist trope of crying "quote mining" without even using the term correctly. So prove that I am "quote mining."

[_Simon Belmont]

Irrelevant. You are resorting to the apologist trope of crying "quote mining" without even using the term correctly. So prove that I am "quote mining."

Because I am not an apologist, I am not bound by the apologist parlance.

[_Hoops]

Has anyone else ever noticed Darth J is like the mopologists worst nightmare?

Yep. There's about 8-10 posters on here who are cool rock stars. I always look for their posts and go to them immediately. Very, very interesting people here. It's like sitting on the stairs late at night as a kid and listening to the adults talk in the living room.

[_Darth J]

Irrelevant. You are resorting to the apologist trope of crying "quote mining" without even using the term correctly. So prove that I am "quote mining."

Because I am not an apologist, I am not bound by the apologist parlance.

This is you talking to me in another thread where you say what you mean by "quote mining:"

Things that the leaders have said in the 1930s may not apply today, for example. It is up to us to determine if they are in harmony with the Gospel today by asking God. Your quote mining from historical documents of the church does nothing.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=15476&p=380704&hilit=+quote+mining+#p380704

You are using the apologist term of art "quote mining" in exactly the same way that apologists do. Your attempt to avoid the issue that you have created is like claiming that the ancient Egyptians had aircraft, and when asked to back up your claim, saying that you are not a pilot so you are not bound by what pilots mean by "aircraft."

(Also, see generally William Schryver on "translate" and "Egyptian.")

So, again:

Point out a single thing I have posted on this board from General Conference talks, the Ensign, the scriptures, and/or recent church curricula that is taken out of context, or that does not accurately represent the position of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints on any given topic.

Or concede that you yet again are making unsupportable claims.

[_schreech]

Because I am not an apologist, I am not bound by the apologist parlance.

Lol....so because you are not an "apologist" (a person who makes a defense in speech or writing of a belief, idea, etc.), you don't have to use the proper meaning of common terms when communicating with people? (Although that seems to be a pretty standard tactic for LDS "apologists"....)

Maybe you meant to say you are not a GOOD "apologist"....

[_Darth J]

I'm not an apologist.

By the way:

How is it that you are such a stalwart defender of Mormon apologetics

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=15191&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=roadblocks

and yet when you are called upon to substantiate your claims that are based specifically on your using a Mormon apologetics term of art the same way Mormon apologists do, suddenly you are "not an apologist"?

[_Darth J]

To help further clarify that Simon Belmont is indeed referring to "quote mining" in the exact same way Mormon apologists use the term:

And I am sorry, DJ, but that is what I have always been taught from my church leaders. Now, I am sure you will find some obscure quotation from a bygone era to demonstrate your point -- have at it.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=15191&p=372937&hilit=bygone#p372937

[_Darth J]

Oh, and Simon:

If I am "quote mining" by finding some obscure thing a General Authority said one time and taking it out of context to distort what the Church's teachings/position are/is, why do I link to every single quote from LDS sources I have put on this board?