From My Informant: DCP & Schryver Ordered to Stand Down
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From My Informant: DCP & Schryver Ordered to Stand Down
It has been an extremely long time since I heard from this particular "informant." This individual (or set of individuals) has been one of the most reliable sources of provocative and interesting information pertaining to the behind-the-scenes activities of the Mopologists. This latest bit of information proved especially interesting, as it concerns two of the more "powerful" apologists.
According to my informant, "strict orders have come down from Salt Lake City...that Dan Peterson and William Schryver are no longer to participate in message board discussions with ex-Mormons or anti-Mormons." I understand this to mean that the Brethren personally ordered both DCP and Schryver to "bow out" of messageboard discussions. Apparently they will still be permitted to make announcements (e.g., about the latest issue of FROB), but they are absolutely forbidden from engaging with "the enemy." This means, further, that we will never see either of them participating here on Mormon Discussions. Doing so, from what I can gather, would represent a serious affront to the General Authorities, and would constitute a major act of insubordination.
As always, I urge caution with this sort of "intel." Obviously, either Schryver or DCP could easily disprove the allegation by surfacing here on MDB and getting into a heated discussion. But if my "informant" is correct, neither of them will do this. I myself remain skeptical, but I have to admit that a few things suggest that the allegations are correct. Both DCP and Schryver have recently said that they won't be participating on online discussions any more. Further, Dr. Peterson has essentially ceased any of his normal written apologetics in the FARMS Review. And my "informant" has been saying for close to a year now that the apologists were being ordered to "Turn Chapel" by the Brethren. In light of all that, this seems like yet more confirmation as to the veracity of the allegations.
Still, I urge skepticism and caution.
According to my informant, "strict orders have come down from Salt Lake City...that Dan Peterson and William Schryver are no longer to participate in message board discussions with ex-Mormons or anti-Mormons." I understand this to mean that the Brethren personally ordered both DCP and Schryver to "bow out" of messageboard discussions. Apparently they will still be permitted to make announcements (e.g., about the latest issue of FROB), but they are absolutely forbidden from engaging with "the enemy." This means, further, that we will never see either of them participating here on Mormon Discussions. Doing so, from what I can gather, would represent a serious affront to the General Authorities, and would constitute a major act of insubordination.
As always, I urge caution with this sort of "intel." Obviously, either Schryver or DCP could easily disprove the allegation by surfacing here on MDB and getting into a heated discussion. But if my "informant" is correct, neither of them will do this. I myself remain skeptical, but I have to admit that a few things suggest that the allegations are correct. Both DCP and Schryver have recently said that they won't be participating on online discussions any more. Further, Dr. Peterson has essentially ceased any of his normal written apologetics in the FARMS Review. And my "informant" has been saying for close to a year now that the apologists were being ordered to "Turn Chapel" by the Brethren. In light of all that, this seems like yet more confirmation as to the veracity of the allegations.
Still, I urge skepticism and caution.
"[I]f, while hoping that everybody else will be honest and so forth, I can personally prosper through unethical and immoral acts without being detected and without risk, why should I not?." --Daniel Peterson, 6/4/14
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Re: From My Informant: DCP & Schryver Ordered to Stand Down
I suspected this in the poll of how long till DCP came back ... he just needed an excuse ... which took the form of PaPa
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Hello Dr. Scratch,
This makes sense. I now understand why Mr. Schyrver is posting under the sockpuppet of "Nomad" and continues to disavow that he is, indeed, "Nomad".
The games never cease with these particular Mormons...
V/R
Dr. Cam
This makes sense. I now understand why Mr. Schyrver is posting under the sockpuppet of "Nomad" and continues to disavow that he is, indeed, "Nomad".
The games never cease with these particular Mormons...
V/R
Dr. Cam
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Re: From My Informant: DCP & Schryver Ordered to Stand Down
No, that was a scripted argument, orchestrated so that he could sign off in a somewhat dignified manner.I suspected this in the poll of how long till DCP came back ... he just needed an excuse ... which took the form of PaPa
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http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/a ... cc_toc.htm
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http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/a ... cc_toc.htm
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Re: From My Informant: DCP & Schryver Ordered to Stand Down
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Hello Dr. Scratch,
This makes sense. I now understand why Mr. Schyrver is posting under the sockpuppet of "Nomad" and continues to disavow that he is, indeed, "Nomad".
The games never cease with these particular Mormons...
V/R
Dr. Cam
Good point. In fact, it explains why Nomad is forced to viciously deny the truth, that he is Schryver. He could get in a lot of trouble.
Lou Midgley 08/20/2020: "...meat wad," and "cockroach" are pithy descriptions of human beings used by gemli? They were not fashioned by Professor Peterson.
LM 11/23/2018: one can explain away the soul of human beings...as...a Meat Unit, to use Professor Peterson's clever derogatory description of gemli's ideology.
LM 11/23/2018: one can explain away the soul of human beings...as...a Meat Unit, to use Professor Peterson's clever derogatory description of gemli's ideology.
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DCP perhaps, but Schryver? Who is he to anyone at the CoB? Wouldn't the G.A's care more about whether Tues. lunch will have turkey instead of ham on their catered hoagies?
If true, what else could stroke these oversized egos more than an official dictate to cease and desist from the top?
If true, what else could stroke these oversized egos more than an official dictate to cease and desist from the top?
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Re: From My Informant: DCP & Schryver Ordered to Stand Down
Gadianton wrote:Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Hello Dr. Scratch,
This makes sense. I now understand why Mr. Schyrver is posting under the sockpuppet of "Nomad" and continues to disavow that he is, indeed, "Nomad".
The games never cease with these particular Mormons...
V/R
Dr. Cam
Good point. In fact, it explains why Nomad is forced to viciously deny the truth, that he is Schryver. He could get in a lot of trouble.
Interesting. Schryver's standing with the Brethren might hang so tenuously that those who know Nomad to be Schryver's puppet could knock the knees out from under Schryver's standing with the Brethren. Schryver better keep in good graces of the admins and mods here and at MADB.
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Tchild wrote:DCP perhaps, but Schryver? Who is he to anyone at the CoB? Wouldn't the G.A's care more about whether Tues. lunch will have turkey instead of ham on their catered hoagies?
If true, what else could stroke these oversized egos more than an official dictate to cease and desist from the top?
new Book of Abraham hope, nail in the coffin and all that
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It also explains why Nomad is begging the admins etc. to look into his IP address. He wants to make sure his sockpuppet is secure, and difficult to link back to Schryver. If it passes an acid test from the admins here, then he can feel safe in freely continuing with his agenda against critics and avoid the wrath of the brethren.
Lou Midgley 08/20/2020: "...meat wad," and "cockroach" are pithy descriptions of human beings used by gemli? They were not fashioned by Professor Peterson.
LM 11/23/2018: one can explain away the soul of human beings...as...a Meat Unit, to use Professor Peterson's clever derogatory description of gemli's ideology.
LM 11/23/2018: one can explain away the soul of human beings...as...a Meat Unit, to use Professor Peterson's clever derogatory description of gemli's ideology.
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Re: From My Informant: DCP & Schryver Ordered to Stand Down
Tchild wrote:DCP perhaps, but Schryver? Who is he to anyone at the CoB? Wouldn't the G.A's care more about whether Tues. lunch will have turkey instead of ham on their catered hoagies?
If true, what else could stroke these oversized egos more than an official dictate to cease and desist from the top?
I was told that Schryver was essentially a "puppet" for the General Authorities. Remember how Will was boasting about obtaining access to the super-restricted portions of the Church's archives? Many of us wondered how he was able to do that, given his lack of credentials and his essentially amateur status as an apologist. According to one of my informants, Will was chosen to tackle the Book of Abraham problem, and his little theory about the cypher was crafted at the very upper echelons of Church leadership.
"[I]f, while hoping that everybody else will be honest and so forth, I can personally prosper through unethical and immoral acts without being detected and without risk, why should I not?." --Daniel Peterson, 6/4/14