From My Informant: DCP & Schryver Ordered to Stand Down

[_Nomad]

Simon, tell me the brethren wouldn't be buzzing within a few hours after making some changes to the FAIR organization:

1. Appoint Brent Metcalfe as President
2. Appoint Polygamy Porter as Treasurer
3. Appoint Joseph as Senior Moderator of MAD
4. Ban DCP from MAD
5. Crown Paul Osborne as Church Egyptologist

Any questions?

Paul O

What a drunken sot of a fool you are. You don't know squat about Egyptology.

If I were your parents or your children, I'd be ashamed of what you've become. No wonder your wife dumped you and moved on to find someone more worthy.

[_RockSlider]

At least DCP weaned himself from MDB and for a long time now, his posting on MAD was pretty focused on his own personal announcement threads. His participation there dramatically dropped off, I'd say about the time of the Mrs Jack incident. I'm sure he misses some aspects of it all, but DCP will make it.

On the other hand, our poor William. I hope that his stake, ward, friends and neighbors along with any upcoming books/speaking engagements etc. can provide enough subsistence to feed his enormous ego. It would be fun to be a fly on the wall and hear what his fellow stake members say about him.

But of course the feedings that the fifth columnist and outright critics of the church provide for him is a fix that he just cannot walk away from.
In sympathy, this heartfelt song goes out to William:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63m-sjU96Hk

Hey William, the "she" is not only DCP but all those fifth columnist.

[_Runtu]

What a drunken sot of a fool you are. You don't know squat about Egyptology.

If I were your parents or your children, I'd be ashamed of what you've become. No wonder your wife dumped you and moved on to find someone more worthy.

Bitter much?

[_Simon Belmont]

No... That's not my argument at all. For all I know, my "intel" may be 100% false. That's why I've urged skepticism again and again. My point to you here on this thread is simply that I have no reason to believe that it's false in light of the lack of evidence supplied by the apologists. Argumentum ad ignorantium applies more to positivistic argumentation. But I'm not "asserting" anything. I'm just saying: This is what I was told, I don't know if it's true, and I haven't seen any evidence from the apologists which would convince me that the "intel" was false.

Well then, I have no reason to reject the truthfulness of my unicorn intel, since no one has proven that they do not exist, they must exist!

[_Eric]

In some ways, Brigham Young thinks like an Autistic...

Sig line, anyone?

[_Kishkumen]

Well then, I have no reason to reject the truthfulness of my unicorn intel, since no one has proven that they do not exist, they must exist!

Well, Simon, if you find that compelling, far be it from me to concern myself with it. You're the one foaming at the mouth over Scratch's intel. I can tell you that I really don't care whether you have insider information on unicorns. Have fun with it, I say.

[_Kishkumen]

What a drunken sot of a fool you are. You don't know squat about Egyptology.

If I were your parents or your children, I'd be ashamed of what you've become. No wonder your wife dumped you and moved on to find someone more worthy.

Bitter much?

Nomad doesn't understand that he is the one who looks like a fool for railing at Paul's jaunty provocations. Nomad the grim harlequin.

[_Themis]

You know, I had never really gone and bothered to read part of the JoD until now. And what's funny is people are saying 'the JoD this' and 'the JoD that'.

Part? I think your bias is coming through by basing it on a part. It's just a collection of teachings and such from past leaders of the church.

Actually, I don't find it too shabby. And now I know how much people quote mine in the JoD just to find something they can criticize - when they don't realize what the JoD is.

I'm not sure you understand what it is. I see you have picked up the apologetic talking point of quote mining. I would hope that if you are going to use it, don't do like many other apologists like Simon and Bpspace, who thinking just mentioning it wins there point. First you need to understand what it means, and then show how you think the person is quote mining. The same goes for your next talking point of context. If you think someone is using some statement out of context you need to provide what you think is the correct context backing it up.

Reading, I walk away with a greater respect of BY; he is a kinder man than people make him out to be. Just by reading the JoD I can tell such.

I think you are seeing what you want, but many do whether negatively or positively about BY. I think he was very nice in many areas and not so nice in others, which is generally how many of us can be. I know some who treat many very nice while mean to certain others. People are not generally either black or white in this area.

If anything, this has just confirmed what I had already thought - that people make out BY and polygamy to be more cruel than they really are.

I think many can be to biased and think only negative about the man, and other like yourself who are biased as well, and think mainly positive about the man. You have already admitted you don't know enough to make this assessment. I see he can be both, and yes polygamy does have it's dark side.

And there's a good reason they aren't in church manuals too XD. Because it is so much more educating to learn it yourself through the spirit.

Not really. We just end up confirming with our emotions and feelings most of what we wanted to, and delude ourselves into thinking we just learned something from the spirit of God.

I am telling you that the negative perspective you put on it is non-existent. I don't take on other people's attitude just because they are majority thought. I think about them first, and I confirm with the spirit as well.

Exhibit #1 for my statement above

[_Yoda]

Simon, tell me the brethren wouldn't be buzzing within a few hours after making some changes to the FAIR organization:

1. Appoint Brent Metcalfe as President
2. Appoint Polygamy Porter as Treasurer
3. Appoint Joseph as Senior Moderator of MAD
4. Ban DCP from MAD
5. Crown Paul Osborne as Church Egyptologist

Any questions?

Paul O

What a drunken sot of a fool you are. You don't know squat about Egyptology.

If I were your parents or your children, I'd be ashamed of what you've become. No wonder your wife dumped you and moved on to find someone more worthy.

What a classless piece of crap you are to hit Paul with a low blow like a swipe at his painful divorce! If I were YOUR parents or children, I would be ashamed at your gross misrepresentation of how a decent member and priesthood holder of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints should conduct himself!

At least if you are going to throw around blows regarding Paul's divorce, you need to get your facts straight. (And, I'm not divulging anything here that Paul has not spoken about freely on the board)

Paul's wife did not leave him because he left the Church. Paul did not leave the Church until AFTER his divorce, genius. It's pretty obvious he's hurting and in a lot of emotional pain. The Church I grew up in preaches embracing people in this situation.

I have also spoken my peace to Porter and others who have attacked Droopy regarding his battle with alcohol, so don't even try saying that I am being unfair to TBM's by coming down on you.

I'm right, and you know it.

[_Paul Osborne]

Simon, tell me the brethren wouldn't be buzzing within a few hours after making some changes to the FAIR organization:

1. Appoint Brent Metcalfe as President
2. Appoint Polygamy Porter as Treasurer
3. Appoint Joseph as Senior Moderator of MAD
4. Ban DCP from MAD
5. Crown Paul Osborne as Church Egyptologist

Any questions?

Paul O

What a drunken sot of a fool you are. You don't know squat about Egyptology.

If I were your parents or your children, I'd be ashamed of what you've become. No wonder your wife dumped you and moved on to find someone more worthy.

Well, isn't this interesting. Nomad taking his anger out on me. Fine. Punch me out if it makes you feel better. I can take it. You do realize though that you opened yourself up and revealed to me just how uninspired you are in making this personal attack against me.

For the record, my father passed away years ago while I was still in the faith. Also, for the record, my mother was excommunicated when I was a teenager. To this day, in her later years she still thinks the church is a bunch of garbage. So, you mentioning my parents was simply a hateful thing to do and was not tendered by the Holy Ghost or any other loving God who happens to live in the universe. It came from the heart of Nomad, and angry man who wants to lash out at me.

Also, I was not drunken when I wrote my post. But, I dare say you might have been or just simply angry for your own reasons. I'm not an alcoholic and am careful not to get drunk. Sure, I like to get tipsy but I'm not a drunk.

Now, as far as my children are concerned. Two of the three have left the church. The other still loves me and shows respect and love in every way -- and I'm putting her through collage -- she surely appreciates that. So, Nomad, your using my children to attack me was really a hateful thing to do. And, you know nothing about my xwife and my relationship with her. But I'll let you in on something. I'm having Thanksgiving dinner with her tomorrow night and one of my daughters will be attending. My son is in drug rehab so I can't see him. My other daughter will be working so I won't be seeing her. My exwife thinks I'm a fine person with a lot to offer.

Anyway, I've said enough and am probably rambling. No one probably cares anyway. But I will say, Nomad, you tipped your hand with me. I know you much better now that you acted this way with me. Thank you for enlightening me. Thank you very much. Do it again anytime. Say nasty things if you like. Use foul language. I like that.

Oh, I almost forgot, my knowledge of Egypology is vast. You're mistaken, my little green friend. I wonder why it makes you mad to know that I'm heavy into Egyptology.

Paul O