The Cassius Review of Books: "About Baptism"

[_Darth J]

Darth J wrote: "Oh, by the way: Emma Marr Petersen was the wife of Mark E. Petersen."
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I guess that explains why there are no Chinese or Negroes in the story.

Ah, so every possible race of peoples and each gender must have equal representation in each and every publication throughout time, else the Church is not true.

Simon Belmont, I just want to assure you that Mark E. Petersen was absolutely not a racist and never said anything that would lead a reasonable person to that conclusion.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Hello,

I would like to second that notion, and to add that Mr. Young was definitely, not even remotely, a racist.

V/R
Dr. Cameron "NC" for Me

[_ludwigm]

I guess that explains why there are no Chinese or Negroes in the story.

Ah, so every possible race of peoples and each gender must have equal representation in each and every publication throughout time, else the Church is not true.

You are true. Even there are publications where the negro race is overrepresented.
In "Race Problems—As They Affect the Church." at Brigham Young University on 27 August 1954 Elder Mark E. Petersen said

... if the Negro accepts the gospel with real, sincere faith, and is really converted, to give him the blessings of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost. If that Negro is faithful all his days, he can and will enter the celestial kingdom. He will go there as a servant, but he will get a celestial resurrection ...

The response of FAIRwiki:
It is not clear what he meant by saying a faithful black would have to go "as a servant."

1. "the Negro" should be read as "black" to be more PC

2. servant by answers.com:
- One who is privately employed to perform domestic services.
- One who is publicly employed to perform services, as for a government.
- One who expresses submission, recognizance, or debt to another: your obedient servant.

[_Spurven Ten Sing]

Woe unto those who reject this gospel, and are destined to remain in Denmark for eternity!

I find this to be the funniest thing I have ever read.

[_Dr. Shades]

To retain plausible deniability, the views expressed in this article do not necessarily represent the position of Cassius University, Mormon Discussions, or the author himself.

And I find that to be the funniest thing I have ever read.

[_Simon Belmont]

And I find that to be the funniest thing I have ever read.

And I find that to be the funniest thing I have ever read.

[_Simon Belmont]

You are true. Even there are publications where the negro race is overrepresented.

I do not consider other "races" to exist. We are all the "human race" therefore the "negro race" means nothing to me.

[_Spurven Ten Sing]

You are true. Even there are publications where the negro race is overrepresented.

I do not consider other "races" to exist. We are all the "human race" therefore the "negro race" means nothing to me.

The Negro Race means nothing to you?

[_Darth J]

You are true. Even there are publications where the negro race is overrepresented.

I do not consider other "races" to exist. We are all the "human race" therefore the "negro race" means nothing to me.

Then you are in good company. There has never been an LDS prophet or apostle who has considered the "negro race" or other ethnicities to be separate races. No LDS Church leaders have ever taught this, and LDS Church policy has never, ever been based on racial divisions.

[_sock puppet]

Are these second graders really able to understand making a lifelong commitment, which is what baptism is meant to entail? Is Larry getting baptized because he really understands and believes in Mormonism, or because he is an orphan and a foreigner with no realistic alternative---and who wants to please his aunt and uncle on top of that? Is Paul getting baptized because he really understands and believes in Mormonism, or because that is the environment in which he was raised?

In any case, Larry and Paul both live in or near Salt Lake City. The Church does not hide or downplay any of the problem areas with its faith-promoting narrative. Larry and Paul could have gone down to the Church History Library and looked through old manuscripts and microfilm to learn about all these things. They freely chose to be in the circumstances they were in at age seven. If someday they find troubling things about the faith in which they were raised, clearly they have no one to blame but themselves.

Darth J, if I might be permitted to use Mormon-speak for a moment: Your brilliance knows no bounds, you enlighten us like the morning sun.*

(*The sentiments are genuine even if no sincere person speaks that way.)

I am re-thinking my criticism of whether at 8 years old an individual may make an eternity-lasting decision. After all, many parents, Mormon and gentile alike, think if they don't get their child into the right pre-school and kindergarten that the child's entire life will be ruined. We just need to adjust our thinking that if we don't enroll our 8 year olds in COJCOLDS, they will forever--even after becoming gods--be behind their peers who did join COJCOLDS at 8 years of age.