Still moaning?

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_Runtu
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Re: Still moaning?

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jskains wrote:Absolutely. Do you actually read the trash that is on this board? It's hateful, bigoted, anti-LDS material that repeatedly trashes on my religious beliefs. Can you defend this place as anything else?


I'm on record as not supporting hate from any source, and I've taken people to task for unfairly and hatefully attacking our church (it's still my church, too, Josh). See, for example, my memorable exchanges with thews.

But it's unfair to lump everyone here together as hateful bigots who trash our church. It's simply not true.

Absolutely. We lose a lot of good people to the manipulations and lies of the Anti-LDS group.


If I was ever lost, it wasn't from lies and manipulations, just my own conscience.

While you are not as bad as some of the others, you do support this place, do you not?

JMS


I support it as a place to discuss Mormonism, pro and con. I have no problem with that at all.
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jskains wrote:I see some of you are still griping about the Church. Like the Neverending story.

Course, I also noticed I got blamed for yet another "sock puppet". *eyeroll*. Course some of you are still too prideful enough to believe that I was the other one.

Why don't some of you move on? The LDS Church will continue to exist and people like me will continue to believe. No amount of pissing and moaning is gonna change that.

Good lord folks, move on....

JMS

Hello jskains,

I am sort of new here. My participation is fairly sporadic and very inconsequential. I have always had the impression that the vast majority of posters view this board as place to sound of. I've never got the impression that people here are actively seeking to destroy the church. It seems like it is a small message board where a handful of people meet to discuss their ideas. Why do you have a problem with them (us) doing this. You could just not come here you know.

by the way, I thought you might want the rest of the Einstein quote:

Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices, but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence and fulfills the duty to express the results of his thought in clear form.

Albert Einstein, quoted in New York Times, March 19, 1940
"Sire, I had no need of that hypothesis" - Laplace
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jskains wrote:
Buffalo wrote:Your religious beliefs don't make you special, any more than your political opinions. You have no immunity from criticism just because you're in a religion. Sorry.


The problem, Buffalo, is you were sleeping in class when they taught you about morality, ethics, and treatment of others.

There is a big difference between criticism and what goes on here. Your inability to tell the difference is telling.

JMS


Really? What's the difference? It sounds to me like you just can't tolerate criticism of your superstitions.
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jskains wrote:Anyways, I end this dialog by just pointing to my signature.

I ask some of you to serious consider what your doing here. Is this helping anything? Is this creating a positive influence in your life?

Christmas is coming up. Perhaps spend less time in a hate group like this and more time focusing on positive things. I know when I spend less time in these boards, I have a better attitude.

Merry Christmas to those who'd accept it and may God bless you all with a soft heart and an open mind.

Joshua Skains


Translation: you want to be free to condemn people who don't buy into your beliefs (atheists, Catholics, evangelicals, Muslims), but don't allow others the same right. In the grown up world, it doesn't work like that.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.

B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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Re: Still moaning?

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Oh boy he's back. How is your book "trapped by the ni**ers" coming along?
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jskains wrote:Absolutely. We lose a lot of good people to the manipulations and lies of the Anti-LDS group.



If it's any comfort, I stopped believing not because of the influence "anti-Mormons" but rather because of the influence of scientific fact, exacerbated by the incredibly weak apologetics of believers.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.

B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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I love spreading anti-Mormonism. It's not about moaning, it's about doing what I love. I don't need anti-Mormon lies, when there is so much anti-Mormon truth out there.
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Jskains,

Joseph Smith was an asshole.
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)

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Hi, Josh. Welcome back, and Merry Christmas to you, too! I cannot help but wonder: Did you ask Santa for a Mr. Potato Head doll this year?
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zeezrom wrote:Jskains,

Joseph Smith was an asshole.


I wonder if Joseph Smith told William Law to move on.
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