Gun shooting in Arizona

[_aussieguy55]

We Australians have always been amused about how Americans love their guns. Boys and their toys. Now you have the shooting of a number of people who were attending a meeting . Gabrielle Giffords was hosting a 'Congress on Your Corner' event with constituents. I often wonder if some of the shock jocks on you radio stations stir people up so much that this triggers some unstable person to go out and shoot someone. I think a regular dose of Beck and Hannity could set them off.

[_richardMdBorn]

The left always tries to use these tragedies for political purposes. A notable exploration of this is
the Kennedy assassination. For a good exploration of this, read Camelot and the Cultural Revolution.

http://books.google.com/books?id=OVb-NT ... Old Testament&f=false

Clinton used the bombing in Oklahoma City to attack conservatives. Incidents like the Fort Hood murders, where a Muslim convert murdered 13, are inconvenient to leftists and they try to forget them.

[_TAO]

Richard, your too hard on Muslims, some of them are very nice people indeed, that they are.

[_richardMdBorn]

Richard, your too hard on Muslims, some of them are very nice people indeed, that they are.

Was my comment about Maj. Hasan incorrect? Not all Muslims are terrorists but almost all terrorists are Muslims.

[_richardMdBorn]

It's still early, but it appears that the shooter is a leftist.

A classmate of the man accused of shooting Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords this morning describes him as "left wing" and a "pot head" in a series of posts on Twitter this afternoon.

Caitie Parker did not immediately respond to our request for an interview, but her "tweets" in the hours after the shooting paint a picture of Jared Loughner as a substance-abusing loner who had met Giffords before the shooting. She says, Loughner described the congresswoman as "stupid and unintelligent."

We've confirmed that Parker and Loughner went to school together at Mountain View High School in Tucson and that both attended Pima Community College, so her claims of knowing Loughner seem to be legit.

Parker "tweets" that she and Loughner were in the band together and were friends until 2007 when he became "reclusive" after getting alcohol poisoning and dropping out of college.

She describes him as "quite liberal" and as a "political radical."

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2011/01/jared_loughner_alleged_shooter.php

We'll see if this holds up when we know more about him. But he sounds like a younger Lee Harvey Oswald. I doubt if conservative talk radio had anything to do with this.

[_TAO]

Richard, your too hard on Muslims, some of them are very nice people indeed, that they are.

Was my comment about Maj. Hasan incorrect? Not all Muslims are terrorists but almost all terrorists are Muslims.

I don't know if that be true, but if it is, you should still be flaming terrorists, not Muslims.

Just like if a giant square comes and crushes your hand, you aren't going to blame all the rectangles in the world. Although this is an abstract comparison.

[_Kevin Graham]

Richard, how do you define terrorism?

[_Molok]

We Australians have always been amused about how Americans love their guns. Boys and their toys. Now you have the shooting of a number of people who were attending a meeting . Gabrielle Giffords was hosting a 'Congress on Your Corner' event with constituents. I often wonder if some of the shock jocks on you radio stations stir people up so much that this triggers some unstable person to go out and shoot someone. I think a regular dose of Beck and Hannity could set them off.

Thank you for using the death of a person as an opportunity to write a piss poor rant about how much you hate America, and go “F” yourself.

[_richardMdBorn]

Richard, how do you define terrorism?

That's an excellent question! This definiition seems accurate to me:

–noun
1. the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political purposes.
2. the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.
3. a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/terrorism

The attempt to impose aspects of sharia law on the West, such as the prohibition of any criticism of Islam or Muhammad, is an example of this. Note what happened after the recent murder in Pakistan. 500 Islamic clerics and scholars described Pak governor's killer as an Islamic warrior and warned against expressions of sympathy or prayers.

http://islamizationwatch.blogspot.com/2 ... olars.html

Toleration will not be tolerated! And the liberals don't want to discuss honor killings such as

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2009/02 ... llege.html

[_honorentheos]

http://azstarnet.com/news/opinion/editorial/article_aedb485e-c925-504a-87ad-0d5835123b59.html

Richard, I have a lot of respect for you as a person. I hope that is worth considering as or if this thread progresses further.

I don't think that anyone, on either side of the aisle in American politics, condones what this man did.

I do hope that all American's, in some manner, can find it in themselves to give pause and ask if there is room for reflection on better ways to dialog and make progress in a political forum where vitriolic rhetoric has become the norm. Rather than looking to place blame, maybe there is something to be said for looking inward to enact some change in our own part in the greater national political debate?

Remembering that a 9-year-old girl was killed because she attended an event to meet her congresswoman; a 76-year-old man died because he placed himself between his wife and a madman with a gun; that an elected official and an appointed judge had their lives forever changed or ended because they happened to be doing the one thing most voters feel politicians today do not do enough - take time to listen...maybe we can do somethings better.

As one commenter said on the local paper memorial for Christina Green, the 9-year-old who was killed, ""We are destroying our future by refusing to deal rationally with our present. God bless you child. God help us all."

God help us all, indeed.