Did Hinckley give David A. Bednar the prophethood as a gift?

[_stemelbow]

Since being an solipsistic attention whore is part of being a troll, it should not be surprising that you assume that your motives are the same as other's.

Have you decided yet on whether you're going to stick with the faux hillbilly syntax?

thinking of you naked,
DJ

You do provide me with some laughs sometimes, at least. Huh? What are you whimpering about now? Oh you didn't like my playful syntax in a few of my posts? You continue to harp on it, hoping Old Testament win some points with your 'viewers"? Okay...play your games.

[_Darth J]

Since being an solipsistic attention whore is part of being a troll, it should not be surprising that you assume that your motives are the same as other's.

Have you decided yet on whether you're going to stick with the faux hillbilly syntax?

thinking of you naked,
DJ

You do provide me with some laughs sometimes, at least. Huh? What are you whimpering about now? Oh you didn't like my playful syntax in a few of my posts? You continue to harp on it, hoping Old Testament win some points with your 'viewers"? Okay...play your games.

As of this moment, you are averaging 38.90 posts per day.

These 38.90 posts per day have been an assortment of "pep pep," declaring that anyone who doesn't drink the Kool Aid is "whimpering," and conclusively demonstrating that you have no idea what you're talking about when you want to discuss evidence.

Your board presence here consists entirely of trying---successfully---to be an insufferable douchebag, praising yourself as a martyr when people don't like the persona you have chosen, and trying to heckle anyone who talks about anything substantive in order to derail the conversation because you do not have the wherewithal to address criticism of your cherished beliefs. You are an embarrassment to believing Latter-day Saints on the internet. You are a gift to people who don't like Mormons, as you are exactly the image that haters want the world to have of Mormons.

I said before that you were jskains. That was out of a burst of optimism about the human race, in my hope that the odds were against another person of similar mentality deciding to set up shop here. Whether you are another foot soldier in his army of sock puppets or just another sample from the shallow end of the gene pool, you have now replaced jskains as the board troll.

And you're not even a good troll. Yahoo Bot, who unlike you actually discusses substantive topics, sometimes decides to be a troll, and when he does, he is clever and kind of hilarious even when he is pissing people off. You, on the other hand, are not entertaining or interesting. Not even accidentally, like "B" movies that are so bad they're good. Whether or not it was your original intention to be a pathetic train wreck, that is what you have accomplished. The true test of how much anyone on this board dislikes Mormons is how much they hope you will continue as you have heretofore done. Well done, thou good and faithful servant.

hoping the neighbors won't hear your love cries,
DJ

[_Buffalo]

As of this moment, you are averaging 38.90 posts per day.

These 38.90 posts per day have been an assortment of "pep pep," declaring that anyone who doesn't drink the Kool Aid is "whimpering," and conclusively demonstrating that you have no idea what you're talking about when you want to discuss evidence.

Your board presence here consists entirely of trying---successfully---to be an insufferable douchebag, praising yourself as a martyr when people don't like the persona you have chosen, and trying to heckle anyone who talks about anything substantive in order to derail the conversation because you do not have the wherewithal to address criticism of your cherished beliefs. You are an embarrassment to believing Latter-day Saints on the internet. You are a gift to people who don't like Mormons, as you are exactly the image that haters want the world to have of Mormons.

I said before that you were jskains. That was out of a burst of optimism about the human race, in my hope that the odds were against another person of similar mentality deciding to set up shop here. Whether you are another foot soldier in his army of sock puppets or just another sample from the shallow end of the gene pool, you have now replaced jskains as the board troll.

And you're not even a good troll. Yahoo Bot, who unlike you actually discusses substantive topics, sometimes decides to be a troll, and when he does, he is clever and kind of hilarious even when he is pissing people off. You, on the other hand, are not entertaining or interesting. Not even accidentally, like "B" movies that are so bad they're good. Whether or not it was your original intention to be a pathetic train wreck, that is what you have accomplished. The true test of how much anyone on this board dislikes Mormons is how much they hope you will continue as you have heretofore done. Well done, thou good and faithful servant.

hoping the neighbors won't hear your love cries,
DJ

[_stemelbow]

As of this moment, you are averaging 38.90 posts per day.

These 38.90 posts per day have been an assortment of "pep pep," declaring that anyone who doesn't drink the Kool Aid is "whimpering," and conclusively demonstrating that you have no idea what you're talking about when you want to discuss evidence.

Your board presence here consists entirely of trying---successfully---to be an insufferable douchebag, praising yourself as a martyr when people don't like the persona you have chosen, and trying to heckle anyone who talks about anything substantive in order to derail the conversation because you do not have the wherewithal to address criticism of your cherished beliefs. You are an embarrassment to believing Latter-day Saints on the internet. You are a gift to people who don't like Mormons, as you are exactly the image that haters want the world to have of Mormons.

I said before that you were jskains. That was out of a burst of optimism about the human race, in my hope that the odds were against another person of similar mentality deciding to set up shop here. Whether you are another foot soldier in his army of sock puppets or just another sample from the shallow end of the gene pool, you have now replaced jskains as the board troll.

And you're not even a good troll. Yahoo Bot, who unlike you actually discusses substantive topics, sometimes decides to be a troll, and when he does, he is clever and kind of hilarious even when he is pissing people off. You, on the other hand, are not entertaining or interesting. Not even accidentally, like "B" movies that are so bad they're good. Whether or not it was your original intention to be a pathetic train wreck, that is what you have accomplished. The true test of how much anyone on this board dislikes Mormons is how much they hope you will continue as you have heretofore done. Well done, thou good and faithful servant.

hoping the neighbors won't hear your love cries,
DJ

Well, don't worry, DJ, I won't hold your sneering diatribes about how much you hate ol' stem against ya. I really do wish ya the best, in spite of your ill will towards me. Peace to your seemingly troubled heart.

[_Dr. Shades]

you mean to say the only person, of the 12 million, who had a chance to name a building after him (well we must recognize other's were in on the decision it just so happens he was pres. so in your eyes he gets all credit, apparently), was named an apostle because he did what none of the other 12 million could do?

Apparently so, since that's precisely what happened.

Then pout about that, while you cynically speculate about reasons that only make sense to those who attribute the worst in leaders of the church, i guess.

Why is the speculation "cynical," and why is it "the worst in leaders of the church?" Gordon B. Hinckley had to call someone as an apostle, so it only makes sense to call the person who had rendered proper obeisance.

How is Bednar related to Mormon leadership? Does he have some kind of connection by marriage of birthright?

That's a VERY good question, one to which I wish that I knew the answer.

"I'm going to bed now. There's a leftover piece of pizza. Why not feed it to the dog?"

Only we're talking about picking who is going to be the most powerful man in America... it's not really the same as leftover pizza. I guess we need more supporting argument here.

Well, I doubt they're going to detail their thought processes to the unwashed masses. Besides, G.B.H. won't be telling tales anytime soon anyhow.

So are you saying that it's nothing more than blind coincidence that the one guy who names a building after Hinckley just so happens to be one of two guys named as apostles when the spots become available?

Please give me your thoughts on what you believe is the most likely scenario.

Laying the groundwork for future yellow journalism?

How does David A. Bednar becoming the next apostle lay the groundwork for future yellow journalism? Does Bednar show signs of being a yellow journalist in embryo?

Your skepticism is unbecoming of you, Brother Shades, and we pray each week in the temple for your return. If you would but listen and hearken to the words of the faithful members who visit here to share with you the way to return to the fold, you will be blessed. The testimonies of your newest members, Simon and Stemmelbow and Tao, just to name three, I hope will remind you of how you once were, and can become again. Follow their wisdom and you will once again feel the joy of holding to the rod.

I am humbled by your message, Elder Bednar. Thanks for keeping me in mind, but as Darth Vader said to Luke in Return of the Jedi, "It is too late for me, son."

Sorry to be a 'killjoy,' but BYU (in Provo, not the former Ricks) recently named the Alumni Bldg after GBH. It's a gorgeous bldg, sitting at the top of the hill as one drives up the road from the main entrance. GBH was at the dedication and seemed very pleased. Alas, BYU's prez, Cecil Samuelson, was not promoted (from the Seventy) to the apostleship.

I'm going to have to disagree with you, I'm afraid. Hinckley was present at the groundbreaking, not the dedication, right? Plus, the ground wasn't broken for the facility until 2006, long after Bednar had both named Hinckley's building and been appointed to the Apostlehood. Did another apostle slot become available before Hinckley died?

The "moral" stability (they stay married, out of scandal and do not apostatise) of the general authorities and their lifelong commitment to the cause of Mormonism is not determined by favoritism in my opinion. It is determined by years and decades of unflinching duty to the church, and nothing more.

Certainly. But in addition to Bednar's years and decades of unflinching duty to the church, he named a building after Gordon B. Hinckley, thus bumping himself to the top of the list.

Nah! He could not name the building on his own. He probably was told by someone else.

Was he told by Hinckley, and given the proper reward for compliance?

I think there is nothing this church could say or do that you would not criticize or question.

You're wrong. There are plenty of positive things that the church could do that I would not criticize or question.

[_stemelbow]

Shades,

Apparently so, since that's precisely what happened.

So its Bednar's obeisance that won him the crown huh? Why assume as much?

Why is the speculation "cynical," and why is it "the worst in leaders of the church?" Gordon B. Hinckley had to call someone as an apostle, so it only makes sense to call the person who had rendered proper obeisance.

I din't say speculation in itself is cynical. It could have been a number of people. Of course Bednar was not alone in the naming of the building. your after the fact complaint is silly, though. Oh well.

[_Dr. Shades]

So its Bednar's obeisance that won him the crown huh? Why assume as much?

For all the reasons that I clearly and painstakingly pointed out.

I din't say speculation in itself is cynical. It could have been a number of people. Of course Bednar was not alone in the naming of the building. your after the fact complaint is silly, though. Oh well.

What "complaint?" Please point out a place where I "complained."

[_GR33N]

There is no "Mormon God"; there is God the Father, his Son and the Holy Ghost...they are God.

Mosiah 15: 2-5
2And because he dwelleth in flesh he shall be called the Son of God, and having subjected the flesh to the will of the Father, being the Father and the Son—
3The Father, because he was conceived by the power of God; and the Son, because of the flesh; thus becoming the Father and Son—
4And they are one God, yea, the very Eternal Father of heaven and of earth.
5And thus the flesh becoming subject to the Spirit, or the Son to the Father, being one God, suffereth temptation, and yieldeth not to the temptation, but suffereth himself to be mocked, and scourged, and cast out, and disowned by his people.

Of course I could have it wrong…as I have no intelligence.

by the way…to both Jews and Muslims we are all polytheist.

Pa Pa,

I find it notable that you reference Book of Mormon scripture which describes a Nicene version of the Godhead, thus helping prove that Joseph Smith's 1820 First Vision was unknown to him in 1830.

It seems to me that Mosiah is explaining some of the titles given to Jesus Christ and the reasons he is given those titles. He further explains that those titles refer to one God (again a title). I don't think this describes the Nicene creed.

[_stemelbow]

For all the reasons that I clearly and painstakingly pointed out.

Well thatwas a little dramatic "painstakingly". Okay. Just hoping you had reasonable reasons, I guess.

IWhat "complaint?" Please point out a place where I "complained."

Okay...so it wasn't a "complaint". Whatever you wish to call it then. Which is? A criticism?

[_Pa Pa]

Let's face it: Considering his age vs. the ages of the other apostles, David A. Bednar is going to be the prophet of the LDS Church someday. Again considering his age, chances are he'll be the prophet for a very long time, too.

Sure guaranteed…no one ever gets killed in accidents, or develops cancer at an early age. Oh wait…yes they do. Good grief!