What lies did the Nauvoo Expositor print?

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_Jason Bourne
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Re: What lies did the Nauvoo Expositor print?

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bcspace wrote:When you address the yellow journalistic part which I've quoted before (and no one had a reasonable anwser to), then you will know.


You had your hat handed to you on the other thread.

So there were inflammatory statements about Joseph Smith.

Some viewed him as a tyrant. Was he as bad as any tyrant ever? Not likely. But where are the lies?

But please BC point out the lies. Did the Expositor lie about what was going on in Nauvoo and some of the doctrines being introduced?
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Re: What lies did the Nauvoo Expositor print?

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Darth J already addressed the yellow journalism charge that bc loves to make every other post:

So no, you cannot point out what the Expositor said that was not true.

And from Wikipedia:

Frank Luther Mott (1941) defines yellow journalism in terms of five characteristics:

1. scare headlines in huge print, often of minor news
2. lavish use of pictures, or imaginary drawings
3. use of faked interviews, misleading headlines, pseudo-science, and a parade of false learning from so-called experts
4. emphasis on full-color Sunday supplements, usually with comic strips (which is now normal in the U.S.)
5. dramatic sympathy with the "underdog" against the system.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_journalism

1. scare headlines ---probably
of minor news---in Nauvoo at that time, this was major news

2. lavish use of pictures, or imaginary drawings---no

3. use of faked interviews, misleading headlines, pseudo-science, and a parade of false learning from so-called experts---no

4. emphasis on full-color Sunday supplements, usually with comic strips (which is now normal in the U.S.)---no

5. dramatic sympathy with the "underdog" against the system---arguably

No, this was not yellow journalism. A strongly-worded opinion is not equivalent to yellow journalism.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.

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Re: What lies did the Nauvoo Expositor print?

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The fact of the matter is that the Laws, Higbees and a few others privy to Smiths behavior were pretty pissed. The writers got a little colorful in their descriptions of those they accused. From anyones point of view, what do you call a lying scumbag that was breaking up neighborhood families by secretly banging the wives and their daughters? Aside from the subjective overtones, they described the unlawful acts Smith perpetrated to a T.

Also:

Smith declared himself King (contrary to the teachings and spirit of the church's own book).

The Nauvoo charter was a usurpation of the consititution of both Illinois & US constitutions.

Seriously, would this make a guy a viable candidate for the POSTUS? The writers gave their opinion.

These are the colors BC, Why me, Nehor & Simone refuse to acknowledge.

Hey boys, how many colors can you describe in a rainbow? Certainly only your favorites. But in all actuallity, we all see the same thing - unless we conclude that some of us suffer colorblindness.

How is it that all of you happen to claim to be Mormon and yet (to others) apparently suffer the same disability?
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Inconceivable wrote:The fact of the matter is that the Laws, Higbees and a few others privy to Smiths behavior were pretty pissed. The writers got a little colorful in their descriptions of those they accused. From anyones point of view, what do you call a lying scumbag that was breaking up neighborhood families by secretly banging the wives and their daughters?

TBMs call one that engaged in such behavior a prophet of god, the prophet of the restoration, an apostle, seer, and translator. That man himself boasted he'd accomplished more than any other man, even more than Jesus Christ. But most TBMs knock that man down at least one notch, to be below Jesus Christ not above him

That's what TBMs call such a man.
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Re: What lies did the Nauvoo Expositor print?

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Mean and mean spirited old bastards like Joseph Smith and Boyd K Packer who believe that some truth should be swept under the rug and not mentioned because they either don't like it or think it will look bad.

Same mentality. Joseph slandered women who turned him down. Boyd and the current paranoids brand everyone they don't like as 'so called' something or other in trying to demean them.

The Nauvoo Expositor may not have been liked by joe and company but it was a legal newspaper and destroying it was a crime.

As for Mormons taking action and being so persecuted. Many of their neighbors in the places they were run out of had farms ransacked, stuff stolen and some of them shot by Mormon mobs and 'enforcers'. You don't get run out of every place you settle just because people don't like how you pray. Mormons were lousy neighbors.
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Joseph wrote:Mormons were lousy neighbors.

I hereby bear my testimony that while not all, many still are lousy neighbors. In the name of truth, amen.
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Re: What lies did the Nauvoo Expositor print?

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Since the Nauvoo Expositor was destroyed after one issue a comparison might be difficult but how did it compare in tone and content to its Nauvoo counterparts like the Wasp, Nauvoo Neighbor and the Times and Seasons? Were these other papers printing the same type of 'lies' about non Mormons?
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Why hasn't this thread been combined with the three other exact same threads by Joseph?
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Simon Belmont wrote:Why hasn't this thread been combined with the three other exact same threads by Joseph?


Are they on the same page, whiner?
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.

B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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Why do they have to be on the same page?

So if I am going to post the exact same thread as I have already posted I merely have to wait until it goes to "page two"?
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