What lies did the Nauvoo Expositor print?

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Re: What lies did the Nauvoo Expositor print?

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why me wrote:
harmony wrote:
The thing is, why me... just because Joseph eventually convinced himself and others that codified adultery was from God doesn't mean it was.

F-a-n-n-y.

Joseph kept it secret; that's all anyone needs to know about it in order to realize where it started.

It's not ever going to add up, not that you'll ever admit it.


I don't know...oliver found out. Not much of a secret. But what we do have is fanny and joseph and her parents and brother. And all seem okay with it. Strange but true.
Fanny went off...and married.
And as far as I know never said a bad word about Joseph. And solomon seems okay with it all. I just see happy campers all around, except for emma. And wonderful fanny, is she knew that it was about lust, attraction and horny baboonness, allows her parents to believe that Joseph Smith is a prophet and allows them to continue to believe in the LDS church. I just can't get my head around that one.

Who performed her and JSJr's spiritual divorcery?
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why me wrote:
harmony wrote:
The thing is, why me... just because Joseph eventually convinced himself and others that codified adultery was from God doesn't mean it was.

F-a-n-n-y.

Joseph kept it secret; that's all anyone needs to know about it in order to realize where it started.

It's not ever going to add up, not that you'll ever admit it.


I don't know...oliver found out. Not much of a secret. But what we do have is fanny and joseph and her parents and brother. And all seem okay with it. Strange but true. Fanny went off...and married. And as far as I know never said a bad word about Joseph. And solomon seems okay with it all. I just see happy campers all around, except for emma. And wonderful fanny, is she knew that it was about lust, attraction and horny baboonness, allows her parents to believe that Joseph Smith is a prophet and allows them to continue to believe in the LDS church. I just can't get my head around that one.

Where is written that polygamous sex must be somber and not enjoyed? Your comments are a non sequitur.
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why me wrote:
harmony wrote:
Don't derail, why me. This thread isn't about me.


It isn't about fanny either. It is about the nauvoo expositor, a yellow rag that attemped to stir up the mobs against the LDS church. And founded by a man with chip on his shoulder.

Have you been channeling bcspace this afternoon?

Let's see. A guy is to be discredited for having a chip on his shoulder because JSJr proposed adultery to the guy's wife, claiming it was god-commanded. Priceless, why me, priceless.
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why me wrote:
harmony wrote:

And a lying cheating prophet is as good as it gets, evidently.


Especially for someone like you who still has a temple recommend. You should be ashamed of yourself. Or are you just a coward and are afraid to come out of the closet?

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Until you quit going to mass, start attending the LDS Church regularly, and hold a calling, you have no right to talk.

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So, anyway, the things that the Nauvoo Expositor claimed to be facts but which were not actually true were..........


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So Joseph Smith turns out to be nothing more than a sexual predator and child molester - and that is just fine with so many who stay active in lds-inc.

The Book of Mormon teaches almost nothing of lds-inc doctrine yet is 'the cornerstone of our religion'.

What a load of shiz.
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Re: What lies did the Nauvoo Expositor print?

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why me wrote:
harmony wrote:
Don't derail, why me. This thread isn't about me.


It isn't about fanny either. It is about the nauvoo expositor, a yellow rag that attemped to stir up the mobs against the LDS church. And founded by a man with chip on his shoulder.



That's right. The fact of Joseph Smith's polyamory is irrelevant to whether the Expositor was telling the truth about Joseph Smith engaging in polyamory.
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why me wrote:William Law's son was there when his father confronted Joseph smith. What more do you need?
About the year 1842, he was present at an interview between his father and the Prophet Joseph. The topic under discussion was the doctrine of plural marriage. William Law, with his arms around the neck of the Prophet, was pleading with him to withdraw the doctrine of plural marriage, which he had at that time commenced to teach to some of the brethren, Mr. Law predicting that if Joseph would abandon the doctrine, 'Mormonism' would, in fifty or one hundred years, dominate the Christian world. Mr. Law pleaded for this with Joseph with tears streaming from his eyes. The Prophet was also in tears, but he informed the gentleman that he could not withdraw the doctrine, for God had commanded him to teach it, and condemnation would come upon him if he was not obedient to the commandment.

During the discussion, Joseph was deeply affected. Mr. Richard S. Law says the interview was a most touching one, and was riveted upon his mind in a manner that has kept it fresh and distinct in his memory, as if it had occurred but yesterday.

Mr. Law also says, that he has no doubt that Joseph believed he had received the doctrine of plural marriage from the Lord. The Prophet's manner being exceedingly earnest, so much so, that Mr. Law was convinced that the Prophet was perfectly sincere in his declaration


http://en.fairmormon.org/City_of_Nauvoo ... _Expositor


Of course, what they don't mention is that Richard Law was 7 or 8 years old in 1842 (born in Ontario, Canada, in 1834). So, in essence, we have a secondhand account from a 7 or 8 year old recounted in 1903 (when he was 69 years old). Wow, that is one impressive citation.

Can you seriously imagine a small child being present at an interview about plural marriage? Would a small child even understand the notion of a religion "dominating the Christian world" or what the "doctrine of plural marriage" was or whether Joseph Smith really believed in plural marriage? No, we cannot question this source because, by golly, he was there!

I note that this "interview" (notice that Richard Law is never directly quoted) occurred in 1903, when the church was publishing the memories of people who "knew the prophet"; when you look into these recollections, you find that without exception, they are from people who were very young children during Joseph's lifetime. It's dismaying that FAIR continues to cite many of these alleged recollections.

If I were Wiki Wonka, I might have to rethink that citation.
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why me wrote:Joseph has done nothing that has affected me.


I consider creating a religion that I lived for 40 years something he did to affect me. If Mormonism hasn't affected you, that might explain why you're active in Catholicism.
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Re: What lies did the Nauvoo Expositor print?

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why me wrote:
harmony wrote:

And a lying cheating prophet is as good as it gets, evidently.


Especially for someone like you who still has a temple recommend. You should be ashamed of yourself. Or are you just a coward and are afraid to come out of the closet?

If this isn't the pot calling the kettle black.

Kind of funny you say something like this, claiming to be Catholic and Mormon, and not respecting the doctrines of either.

Go get him Harmony!!
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