PoGP on Canaanites, black skin and priesthood

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Re: PoGP on Canaanites, black skin and priesthood

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I'd really like to know more about where the first "people of Canaan" resided. But, failing to give me that I agree that it would be nice to see the Canaanite defense.
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The silence from TBMs is curious. This is a smoking gun that Joseph was a false prophet. And TBMs seem to be ignoring the issue.

Perhaps this is instructive about what's necessary in order to maintain belief in Mormonism.

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Re: PoGP on Canaanites, black skin and priesthood

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Buffalo, you really should start a thread asking bcspace to explain his theory of how evolution is compatible with the teaching that Adam and Eve were the first human beings.

Trust me, you are in for a treat.
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Can any other apologist do better than this?


Quite. One, the OP claim fails by virtue of this alone. Two, how was the blood of the Canaanites preserved in the land after the Flood? So the scriptures are internally consistant.

Buffalo, you really should start a thread asking bcspace to explain his theory of how evolution is compatible with the teaching that Adam and Eve were the first human beings.

Trust me, you are in for a treat.


Yes. Another antiMormon chestnut disposed of.
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bcspace wrote:
Buffalo, you really should start a thread asking bcspace to explain his theory of how evolution is compatible with the teaching that Adam and Eve were the first human beings.

Trust me, you are in for a treat.


Yes. Another antiMormon chestnut disposed of.


The Mormon Apologetics Articles of Faith

7. If you can create a chain of suppositions and assumptions in a way that might theoretically be somehow possible, the question has been conclusively answered.

Seriously, Buffalo.............

Wait until you read how bcspace has disposed of this chestnut.
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The Mormon Apologetics Articles of Faith

7. If you can create a chain of suppositions and assumptions in a way that might theoretically be somehow possible, the question has been conclusively answered.

Seriously, Buffalo.............

Wait until you read how bcspace has disposed of this chestnut.


Heck Darth J, you're not even your own man, relying on KG for witty falsisms and such. You're just embarrased you didn't think of how evolution fits with LDS doctrine before I did.
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bcspace wrote:
The Mormon Apologetics Articles of Faith

7. If you can create a chain of suppositions and assumptions in a way that might theoretically be somehow possible, the question has been conclusively answered.

Seriously, Buffalo.............

Wait until you read how bcspace has disposed of this chestnut.


Heck Darth J, you're not even your own man, relying on KG for witty falsisms and such. You're just embarrased you didn't think of how evolution fits with LDS doctrine before I did.


I wrote the Mormon Apologetics Articles of Faith, bcspace.

And no, I am not embarrassed that I did not make up fantastical BS out of thin air, for which there is neither a shred of evidence nor a theological basis in Mormonism, and call it an answer for reconciling evolution with the Adam and Eve story.
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Heck Darth J, you're not even your own man, relying on KG for witty falsisms and such. You're just embarrased you didn't think of how evolution fits with LDS doctrine before I did.

I wrote the Mormon Apologetics Articles of Faith, bcspace.


Time waste.

And no, I am not embarrassed that I did not make up fantastical b***s*** out of thin air,


I'm sure KG would be pleased to hear you think that about his cracked.com find.

for which there is neither a shred of evidence nor a theological basis in Mormonism,


A preclusion of Evolution? I agree.

and call it an answer for reconciling evolution with the Adam and Eve story.


Nothing wrong with reconciliation.
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Re: PoGP on Canaanites, black skin and priesthood

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bcspace wrote:
I wrote the Mormon Apologetics Articles of Faith, bcspace.


Time waste.


Please post whatever examples you have of where the Mormon Apologetics Articles of Faith have been disproved. I have posted many times where they have been vindicated; you could at least make an effort to show that your own say so is not your ultimate and only source of evidence.

And no, I am not embarrassed that I did not make up fantastical b***s*** out of thin air,


I'm sure KG would be pleased to hear you think that about his cracked.com find.


The Cracked article was about internet debating tactics in general, and spending some time on message boards shows what that article said to be true.

for which there is neither a shred of evidence nor a theological basis in Mormonism,


A preclusion of Evolution? I agree.


The Church officially teaches that the temporal age of the Earth began approximately 7,000 years ago, and that the human race entered mortality at that time with a man and a woman who lived in present-day Missouri. Not only does this not fit evolution, it does not fit anthropology.

If LDS doctrine did not preclude what is known about the development of the human race, you would not have to invent new and exciting ways based on nothing but your assertions that no death at all before the Fall really means rampant death all over the place before the Fall.

and call it an answer for reconciling evolution with the Adam and Eve story.


Nothing wrong with reconciliation.


Perhaps if Buffalo starts this thread where you can explain your simple, beautiful theory of divine artificial insemination and non-human spirits in homo sapiens bodies giving birth to Adam and Eve, you could provide the evidence in support of your wild, heretical, fantastical speculation----or "theory," if you prefer.

You know, the evidence that heretofore has been notably absent from every thread in which you have shared how making things up out of thin air equates to "reconciliation."
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Re: PoGP on Canaanites, black skin and priesthood

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bcspace wrote:
Quite. One, the OP claim fails by virtue of this alone. Two, how was the blood of the Canaanites preserved in the land after the Flood? So the scriptures are internally consistant.


Exactly - Canaan was just a twinkle in Ham's eyes at the time of the flood, and you can't have Canaanites without Canaan. Thanks for helping me definitively disprove the prophetic calling of Joseph Smith.

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