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[_Runtu]

And this guy is at complete ease criticizing Mormon beliefs. Unbelievable.

I thought Rob Osborn was LDS.

[_Runtu]

History is as subject to bias as anything else. That is more true of LDS history than almost anything, especially since our side of the story is so sketchy due to not really writing a lot of stuff down. Much of it is second and third hand anecdotes. We are just now sifting through all the documents we do have and telling our side of the story.

Well, Deborah knows a lot about bias. As I recall, she's the one who said that anything that puts the church in a negative light is either demonstrably false or will turn out to be false. No bias there.

[_Fence Sitter]

History is as subject to bias as anything else. That is more true of LDS history than almost anything, especially since our side of the story is so sketchy due to not really writing a lot of stuff down. Much of it is second and third hand anecdotes. We are just now sifting through all the documents we do have and telling our side of the story.

I know I am pointing out the obvious but how much sifting is there to do if they really did not write down that much?

Also I wonder if Deborah does genealogy? Is the information they are collecting for genealogy also biased? Perhaps it is not considered historical. I mean how do we really know when our ancestors lived and who they were if we cannot trust the "second and third hand anecdotes"?

There seems to be a gap in the church between what is acceptable as evidence to baptize someone by proxy and what is considered accurate church history.

[_sethpayne]

And this guy is at complete ease criticizing Mormon beliefs. Unbelievable.

I thought Rob Osborn was LDS.

You know, I think you are right. I'm thinking of Rob Bowman.

My bad. Apologies for Rob Osborn ... but pick up a science book. :)

[_Runtu]

You know, I think you are right. I'm thinking of Rob Bowman.

My bad. Apologies for Rob Osborn ... but pick up a science book. :)

After I posted, I remembered Rob Bowman and figured that's who you were thinking of.

[_sethpayne]

I think the people who tend to go to the Temple are "upper class" in quality, such as in behaviors, for they tend to have their lives in order in other areas of life, thus I would think that the likelihood of spreading "communicable disease" there would actually be "lower" compared to most other areas of life that every kind of person has access to.

Awesome.

[_Blixa]

I think the people who tend to go to the Temple are "upper class" in quality, such as in behaviors, for they tend to have their lives in order in other areas of life, thus I would think that the likelihood of spreading "communicable disease" there would actually be "lower" compared to most other areas of life that every kind of person has access to.

Awesome.

Yep. Nobody is more "upper class" than Obiwan.

[_RockSlider]

Yep. Nobody is more "upper class" than Obiwan.

And disease free to boot!

[_Fence Sitter]

In response to Consig's thread about covering up the past.

Or we can simply follow our leaders admonition to stick with the basics and forget what was said in the past to things we don't have a full or complete understanding about.

A short memory is the cure for any doubts. That or a big shelf.

Seems like one of those things that the church wants to forget about is using the records of the past to prevent a nation (or a church) from dwindling unbelief. Can you see Moroni and Mormon discussing whether or not the plates were considered doctrine?

[_sethpayne]

The State can do you no harm if you keep your kids out of public schools, even if your "homeschooling" is a joke and a travesty. There's no way to charge either child or parent with a crime so long as the parent keeps up-to-date on state filings. No actual educating need take place.