Joseph Smith Megathread

[_consiglieri]

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--Odo Proudfoot

[_thews]

If Joseph Smith was a prophet of God, the why did he translate a known hoax when he said this, "I have translated a portion of them, and find they contain the history of the person with whom they were found. He was a descendant of Ham, through the loins of Pharaoh, king of Egypt, and that he received his kingdom from the Ruler of heaven and earth."

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http://mormonthink.com/kinderhookweb.htm

From 'History of the Church' by Joseph Smith pages vol. 5, pages. 372-379

I insert fac-similes of the six brass plates found near Kinderhook, in Pike county, Illinois, on April 23, by Mr. Robert Wiley and others, while excavating a large mound. They found a skeleton about six feet from the surface of the earth, which must have stood nine feet high. The plates were found on the breast of the skeleton and were covered on both sides with ancient characters.

I have translated a portion of them, and find they contain the history of the person with whom they were found. He was a descendant of Ham, through the loins of Pharaoh, king of Egypt, and that he received his kingdom from the Ruler of heaven and earth.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=15184&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

Stay tuned, Darth J, and watch what happens when someone attempts a substantive thread.

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You guys are so hell bent on Mormonism being wrong that you'll stoop to any depths to protect that belief. When PP says "I know, based on knowledge that it was made up" what does that tell you?

Kindly, briefly, explain the evidence and what it means to you.

You have no more truth than I or anyone else have. It is perpetually elusive. It is unknowable.

Remember, PP believes he knows, based on knowledge.

LOL!

I would contend that PP has knowledge and addresses the questions asked, while Simon Belmont’s tired ruse is to imply he has knowledge, but runs away with tail tucked from the Joseph Smith dead ends he simply cannot answer… like the above. Please Simon, as you continue to demand acknowledgment to your questions, by what divine intervention did Joseph Smith use to come up with the translation of the Kinderhook plates which revealed to Joe Smith the story of Ham?
(note actual data referenced above).

Third request to your thread Simon. Will you kindly answer my question above?

[_thews]

If Joseph Smith was a prophet of God, the why did he translate a known hoax when he said this, "I have translated a portion of them, and find they contain the history of the person with whom they were found. He was a descendant of Ham, through the loins of Pharaoh, king of Egypt, and that he received his kingdom from the Ruler of heaven and earth."

(insert response to data presented here).



http://mormonthink.com/kinderhookweb.htm

From 'History of the Church' by Joseph Smith pages vol. 5, pages. 372-379

I insert fac-similes of the six brass plates found near Kinderhook, in Pike county, Illinois, on April 23, by Mr. Robert Wiley and others, while excavating a large mound. They found a skeleton about six feet from the surface of the earth, which must have stood nine feet high. The plates were found on the breast of the skeleton and were covered on both sides with ancient characters.

I have translated a portion of them, and find they contain the history of the person with whom they were found. He was a descendant of Ham, through the loins of Pharaoh, king of Egypt, and that he received his kingdom from the Ruler of heaven and earth.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=15184&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

Stay tuned, Darth J, and watch what happens when someone attempts a substantive thread.

posting.php?mode=quote&f=1&p=381474

You guys are so hell bent on Mormonism being wrong that you'll stoop to any depths to protect that belief. When PP says "I know, based on knowledge that it was made up" what does that tell you?

Kindly, briefly, explain the evidence and what it means to you.

You have no more truth than I or anyone else have. It is perpetually elusive. It is unknowable.

Remember, PP believes he knows, based on knowledge.

LOL!

I would contend that PP has knowledge and addresses the questions asked, while Simon Belmont’s tired ruse is to imply he has knowledge, but runs away with tail tucked from the Joseph Smith dead ends he simply cannot answer… like the above. Please Simon, as you continue to demand acknowledgment to your questions, by what divine intervention did Joseph Smith use to come up with the translation of the Kinderhook plates which revealed to Joe Smith the story of Ham?
(note actual data referenced above).

Third request to your thread Simon. Will you kindly answer my question above?

:bump:

[_bluedream]

Hi Simon,

You obviously believe Joseph Smith was a prophet called by God.

Was it your extensive research regarding the subject that caused this belief? Was it faith and/or understanding of scripture that caused this belief? Was it a miraculous personal experience that caused this belief? Was it childhood conditioning that caused this belief?

I doubt that your conclusion was reached through the deductive reasoning displayed in the OP. What caused you to believe Joseph Smith was a prophet called by God?

(Genuinely curious)

[_just me]

Epic Thread. LOLZ

[_MCB]

And all I can see is your post.

[_just me]

That is nothing short of irritating! I could see the whole thing before I posted!

ETA: Click the page numbers at the bottom and you shall see.

[_MCB]

It says that there is one page of three posts.

[_Texan]

how odd that Simon compares a daily occurrence of driving home with an amazing once in a lifetime occurrence of being visited by God in an effort to explain multiple versions of the vision.

wow

[_just me]

It says that there is one page of three posts.

Try this link to the first page: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=14401