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[_Fence Sitter]

In response to a challenge to show he is a theologian, Zerinus is offended that someone would use theological jargon to pose such a question.

I refer you to my post #50 earlier in this thread. There I explained how I am a theologian and what I understand by theology. If your idea of theology is to show off by throwing around a bunch of theological jargon, then I am not a theologian in that sense. I refer you again to the above post. That explains my position in that regard clearly enough.

[_just me]

Quoted from LDS Guy 1986

DH said:

I don't think it really matters. If they're concerned about people not knowing that we believe in Christ, they could try TALKING about (not to mention worshipping) Christ more in our worship services.

I hear this a lot but I have never hear a single lesson, talk, or temple ordinance where the name of Jesus Christ is not mentioned at the very least once. Every prayer and testimony is done in the name of Jesus Christ, every ordinance performed in the name of Jesus Christ, one doesn't have to be talking constantly about one of the 4 Gospels of the New Testament to be witnessing of the Lord Jesus Christ.

People are expected to be studying the Gospel daily as an individual and again as a family, if you are not learning of the Savior enough that is a personal failure not a failure of the Church, it is your responsibility to learn of the Savior not the Ward's responsibility to force feed you the Gospel every Sunday. The meetings are there to teach of the doctrine of the Gospel and how they relate to the Savior and the Plan of Salvation, not to force feed the teachings of the Savior to those who are too idol to do there duty and study the Gospel at home.

The Church is not the primary place of learning in our Church the home is, failure to learn the Gospel is a failure at home not a failure of the Ward. The Ward can help members who struggle, but they cannot and will not every force anyone to do there duty to Heavenly Father and study the Gospel at home to prepare for Sunday meetings.

If someone claims there isn't enough Jesus Christ in our services, in my opinion, it is because they are not looking for the savior's presence and how everything we do in the Church is in the Saviors name and for his glory.

[_malkie]

... Are manual and oral forms of stimulation (as practiced by lesbians) really considered fornication?

Yes, regardless if they are performed by a same sex or opposite sex couple they are fornication. The only sexual act that is not fornication is vaginal intercourse between a man and a women who are married to each other.

[_Yoda]

... Are manual and oral forms of stimulation (as practiced by lesbians) really considered fornication?

Yes, regardless if they are performed by a same sex or opposite sex couple they are fornication. The only sexual act that is not fornication is vaginal intercourse between a man and a women who are married to each other.

ROTFLMAO!!! This is priceless!

[_Buffalo]

ROTFLMAO!!! This is priceless!

I feel sorry for his wife!

[_consiglieri]

Which one?

[Guest]

... Are manual and oral forms of stimulation (as practiced by lesbians) really considered fornication?

Yes, regardless if they are performed by a same sex or opposite sex couple they are fornication. The only sexual act that is not fornication is vaginal intercourse between a man and a women who are married to each other.

This is a travesty.

LDS Guy 1986 left out the part about keeping your garments on during sex.

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(6/22/2011 - I didn't originate these quotes, but here I'm posting the links to the thread where krose and LDS Guy 1986 had their exchange: krose | LDS Guy 1986)

[_Runtu]

ROTFLMAO!!! This is priceless!

I wonder if it's still fornication if the sexual act leads up to vaginal intercourse? Ah, hell, why would anyone want to limit the menu to just one thing? I feel kind of sorry for him.

[_krose]

This all started because 86 kept referring to homosexual relations as "fornication," which sounded strange to me.

If you followed the weird conversation further, you would see where he eventually got to the point where he defined "petting" as fornication, at which point I hopped off that runaway train.

[_Spurven Ten Sing]

http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/541 ... 1209000865

As witnessed by the apostasy of those in "Kirk land" and the subsequent conversion of so many in England.

Deborah is quite a character. If a critic or anti made this stupid mistake, they would be discounted as hopelessly ignorant of history. But when she says it..........?

Edited to add quotes and a space to defeat Shades' spelling correction.