MrStakhanovite wrote:I have mixed feelings about it. I was watching people chant U.S.A. outside the Whitehouse and the general elation many feel that Osama has been killed, but it always bothers me when people get excited over the grim and sober business of taking a life, even if it’s a just taking.
MrStakhanovite wrote:I have mixed feelings about it. I was watching people chant U.S.A. outside the Whitehouse and the general elation many feel that Osama has been killed, but it always bothers me when people get excited over the grim and sober business of taking a life, even if it’s a just taking.
This was also true for Qaddafy's son and his children. No one got excited and yet, three young children were killed for being with their father. We are becoming desensitized to death. I did feel sorry for his children. But in America, it seemed perfectly okay to kill the 3 grandchildren of Qaddafy.
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MrStakhanovite wrote:I have mixed feelings about it. I was watching people chant U.S.A. outside the Whitehouse and the general elation many feel that Osama has been killed, but it always bothers me when people get excited over the grim and sober business of taking a life, even if it’s a just taking.
I was in a restaurant with my family when we saw this news on TV. I saw the crowds cheering in NY and Washington, outside the White House, and the same thing occurred to me. Eight years of war seem to have fundamentally changed something about us as a people. We used to wring our hands about going to war, and killing people in other countries. Now we hold a ticker-tape parade in celebration.
All that being said, “F” Osama Bin Laden. It's about time.
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moksha wrote:Unfortunately, this has a cutting off the tail of a lizard quality about it.
Exactly.
But as was said already, it's a symbolic victory just as were the news of the dropping of the towers in many of the Arabian countries.
I still don't think we have any business in Afghanistan whatsoever - unless it were simply to torch the poppyfields. That has always been the greater threat to the world than these Al Quaida misfits.
Funny how our perspectives change when we realize nobody eventually needs Mormonism. I used to think we were freeing these countries for missionary work.
Well I suppose this solves the issue as to whether, if Osama had survived to 65, he would be eligible for a US government pension for his work with the CIA in the 1980s.
Nothing like returning death with death? Do people really believe Feds are the good guy?
Hmmmmmm, let's see.
OBL murdered about 5000 people in the last ten years, including 3000 Americans.
The FEDS murdered nearly a million people, enslaved the populace to the tune of a trillion dollars, created greater terrorism, and eliminated civil rights of its citizens.
I am opposed to state-sanctioned killing, whether it's war or executions. But it was the only option in this case. Leaving him free to do his deeds is unthinkable, and capture/trial would create an unacceptable circus to rally opposition. So he had to be labeled as "resisting" even if sitting still with hands high. And now he's sleeping with the fishes forever, according to plan.
As for the next step, I hope they gathered enough information to get the more dangerous Zawahiri. Meanwhile, this is the perfect opportunity to declare victory and get the hell out of Afghanistan (the stated number-one priority is now accomplished, right?), but I won't hold my breath.
If we don't take advantage of opportunities like this, we're doomed to stay bogged down in that mess forever, spending 2 billion dollars a day in Afghanistan alone (which is still not as costly as all the young people lost there).
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