Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

[_Buffalo]

I didn't take a side. I just don't agree with public lynchings like this. There is no doubt that Will has done what he has been documented to do, but there also is no doubt he's done a lot of good things too. No one cares about the good things.

Every bad person on earth has also done some good things.

[_Buffalo]

I recall reading the word. I even remember what was going on in my mind as I read it. I wondered what happened to make you so mad in that way. I remember thinking it was disjointed from your normally eloquent smears. It seemed lashing out. That's why I remember it.

You are not only a liar, you are a completely natural and shameless liar. You belong to a tribe of shameless liars. You are the seed of a liar.

And you are an official member of the Suborned Witnesses Club. Congratulations!

You were caught lying about your Emma quote, so you really have no credibility to question his testimony.

But in the end, it doesn't matter if you said the C-word or not. Your other confirmed words constitute sexual harassment.

http://LDS.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideN ... 82620aRCRD

“Our television and movie screens are filled with not-so-subtle messages that encourage and persuade young and old alike to unbridle their passions and they will experience happiness. The results of this reckless course should be so apparent as we watch the tremendous social and psychological costs continue to mount. The increasing incidence of teenage pregnancy, abortion, rape, child molestation, sexual harassment, assault, drug addiction, disease, alcoholism, and broken homes are all influenced by this persuasion. And the alarming statistics continue to testify, but with little if any effect” (in Conference Report, Oct. 1993, pp. 110–11, or Ensign, Nov. 1993, p. 82).

[_Will Schryver]

You are not only a liar, you are a completely natural and shameless liar. You belong to a tribe of shameless liars. You are the seed of a liar.
And you are an official member of the Suborned Witnesses Club. Congratulations!

Nice show William! How do you live with this?

Moderators, please honor MsJacks request and move all posts that have digressed to personal attacks out of this celestrial thread.

On the other hand, maybe all should be left as it is ... William showing his true colors.

You participated on the Mark Hoffman thread in question. Do I understand you to be saying that you also claim to have seen where I used the "C" word towards harmony? Will you, too, join the club?

Certainly you would have noted it, and certainly you would have found it objectionable, and certainly you would have continued, in the intervening six month period, to have made reference to my perfidy. Where are your posts about it?

I await your reply ...



ETA: This entire thread, from the very beginning, has been a "personal attack thread." The thread belonged in the Telestial forum from the get go. Removing any posts from it would be nothing less than a blatant effort to suppress all points of view that do not conform to its underlying propaganda objective. Therefore I won't be surprised at all if the moderators here do precisely that.

[_harmony]

Jack, it appears Will has deflected your OP and your subsequent request to stay on topic, by attacking eye witnesses, calling you out with numerous objections, and once again leveling character assassinations at beastie and I. Normal behavior for Will.

He's unwilling to discuss the relationship between his posts here and any subsequent association with women involved in Mormon Studies. The reason for this unwillingness is at the base of his denials and at the base of his underlying treatment of women.

The credibility of those institutions that are involved in Mormon Studies will likely not be devastated by Will's foolishness. Will isn't a big enough fish in that pond for his character flaws to matter. However, his initial posts and the most recent exhibition of his character flaws on this thread will not disappear into the ether, either, and when (not if... when) this attitude shows up in the Mormon Studies world, the documentation on this thread will stand as a witness against any denials he may attempt. The internet world is overlapping the real world more and more. People have even been known to send links to employers and partners. Employers and associates have been known to run internet searches. An institution that guards its reputation as closely as the LDS church closely scrutinizes any links to professionals in the field of Mormon Studies. Any internet search will turn up Will's posts.

I have no doubt that were any female associated with Mormon Studies to disagree with Will, or hamper any professional advancement to which he felt entitled, or obstruct his path in any way, she would be subjected to similiar treatment to what he dishes out here. It's to be hoped that others would immediately demand his removal. After all, Mormon Studies isn't a free wheeling free speech Mormon discussions bulletin board.

[_Doctor Scratch]

My goodness, Will---what a panic you're in! I've never seen you so rattled! You must really be terrified about the repercussions of your behavior. Have you been firing off a series of frantic emails and PMs to people attached to the MI, in hopes of dousing the flames before this rages out of control?

[Guest]

harmony,

Why did you lie about how long my post was up before you edited it?

As can be seen quite clearly in the thread in question, the post where I allegedly used the revolting term was up for over two hours before you edited it and the places where both Rollo and I had quoted it.

So why did you lie and say it was only up for a matter of minutes? I guess you forgot that Rollo and I had quoted it, huh?

[_Will Schryver]

My goodness, Will---what a panic you're in! I've never seen you so rattled! You must really be terrified about the repercussions of your behavior. Have you been firing off a series of frantic emails and PMs to people attached to the MI, in hopes of dousing the flames before this rages out of control?

Not panicked at all, Scratch.

I know precisely how much credibility this place and its creatures truly have.

I will be in the MI offices again tomorrow. I have no doubt there will be some brief and amused discussion concerning this latest in a long, long string of coordinated attacks on me. It has become a species of comic relief, in a way.

As one rather well-known person observed:

"They're afraid you might be right. Terrified, in fact."

It is well understood why these unremitting ad hominem attacks are taking place.

They are not having the effect you people believe they should have. Rather quite the opposite.

[_Doctor Scratch]

harmony,

Why did you lie about how long my post was up before you edited it?

As can be seen quite clearly in the thread in question, the post where I allegedly used the revolting term in question was up for over two hours before you edited it and the places where both Rollo and I had quoted it.

So why did you lie and say it was only up for a matter of minutes? I guess you forgot that Rollo and I had quoted it, huh?

Do you really think this is in any way believable, Will? You had better come clean. It's only a matter of time before your misbehavior is circulated to other, more problematic (for you) venues.

[_Buffalo]

My goodness, Will---what a panic you're in! I've never seen you so rattled! You must really be terrified about the repercussions of your behavior. Have you been firing off a series of frantic emails and PMs to people attached to the MI, in hopes of dousing the flames before this rages out of control?

Not panicked at all, Scratch.

I know precisely how much credibility this place and its creatures truly have.

I will be in the MI offices again tomorrow. I have no doubt there will be some brief and amused discussion concerning this latest in a long, long string of coordinated attacks on me. It has become a species of comic relief, in a way.

As one rather well-known person observed:


It is well understood why these unremitting ad hominem attacks are taking place.

They are not having the effect you people believe they should have. Rather quite the opposite.

You don't think being an unrepentant sexual harasser is serious?

[_Will Schryver]

harmony,

Why did you lie about how long my post was up before you edited it?

As can be seen quite clearly in the thread in question, the post where I allegedly used the revolting term in question was up for over two hours before you edited it and the places where both Rollo and I had quoted it.

So why did you lie and say it was only up for a matter of minutes? I guess you forgot that Rollo and I had quoted it, huh?

Do you really think this is in any way believable, Will? You had better come clean. It's only a matter of time before your misbehavior is circulated to other, more problematic (for you) venues.

I'm quite looking forward to seeing my name in the New York Times. Hurry and get those e-mails sent.

LOL!


ETA: You know what they say: there's no such thing as bad publicity.