Terrestrial comments from Will Schryver thread

[_MrStakhanovite]

What is it with Droops, Will, and Wade, and their ridiculous style of writing? It’s these long convoluted sentences trying to express ideas that can be done in less than half of the verbiage, but they look for excuses to drop three dollar words and the end result is something out of Dante’s 9th level of hell. Each of them could be one of Satan’s heads and instead of chewing traitors, they chew up metaphors, analogies, dog Latin phrases, with the end result being something like this:

With the amazing proliferation of the lynch mob, I think this thread has now reached critical mass and can officially qualify as group hysteria. Perhaps a commemorative medalian is in order--embosed with an icon comprised of pitch forks and torches and the phrase, "Vulgas Mente, multisque unus" (Mob Mentality, many against the one)

[_Trevor]

What is it with Droops, Will, and Wade, and their ridiculous style of writing? It’s these long convoluted sentences trying to express ideas that can be done in less than half of the verbiage, but they look for excuses to drop three dollar words and the end result is something out of Dante’s 9th level of hell. Each of them could be one of Satan’s heads and instead of chewing traitors, they chew up metaphors, analogies, dog Latin phrases, with the end result being something like this:

The upside of all of this is that it is clear these guys place some value on trying to better themselves through education. I really respect that. They look up to the intellectual talents and knowledge of LDS scholars, and they do their best to emulate that in their own way. And, I think it would be fair to say that someone like DCP is at least a little indulgent in his rhetoric. So, if you look at these guys' efforts as attempts to emulate the stars of their team, it is not so difficult to see how this happens.

[_MrStakhanovite]

The upside of all of this is that it is clear these guys place some value on trying to better themselves through education. I really respect that.

Would you, Runtu, and Chap, stop looking for the best in people?

[_Buffalo]

Don't strain yourself flipping through that thesaurus, now.

Exactly what I would expect from someone who thinks and cogitates at a 7th to 8th grade level.

Anyone who "thinks and cogitates"at a 7th-grade level can use a thesaurus, or in this case, misuse. By the way, "thinks and cogitates" are synonyms Droopy. That's one of the dangers of relying on a thesaurus to do your thinking for you - unintentional redundancy.

[_Chap]

What is it with Droops, Will, and Wade, and their ridiculous style of writing?

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... "Vulgas Mente, multisque unus" (Mob Mentality, many against the one)

Where the heck did wenglund get that Latin from? I suspect he wrote the phrase in English, then put it though Google Translate, which in the first instance proposes:

"Mob mente, multisque unus" (It doesn't think it has a good Latin equivalent for 'Mob')

But Google offers "Vulgus" as an possible rendering for "Mob", if you click on the untranslated word. Could it be that Wade mistyped that as "vulgas"? And of course for the second part he really needed something like "multi contra unum".

When DCP does his "look how many languages I know, peasants" act, it may be pretentious and perhaps indicative of a desperate need to be respected, but at least he does know the languages in question. Wade clearly doesn't know Latin to any significant degree. So why on earth does he play this silly game? Who is supposed to be impressed?

[_Buffalo]

And I see youur point as well. I think it should be noted that Goebbels self identified as a Nazi, but Will disputes the misogyny charge. And frankly, I fail to see by any of the quotes that Will has any special hatred for women. He has been just as crude with male posters as female ones. Will just strikes me as someone who likes to talk trash and push people's buttons.

Point taken.

[_Buffalo]

I don't, if you haven't grasped it by now, place a great deal of veracity in what someone laboring within the constraints and boundaries of your own brain power thinks about mine.

That's a new way of using the word "veracity", I think.

I don't believe I have ever seen an educated native English speaker writing of "placing" veracity in something. Try a Google Advanced Search for the exact phrase "place veracity" and see how many examples you get. The only example in normal English on the first page seems to be where someone talks about getting a book called "Veracity" into bookstores, which doesn't really count.

I think Droopy really mean something like "credence" - you can certainly "place credence" in something in normal English usage - again, try the exact phrase in Google, and see how common the phrase is.

I sincerely applaud Droopy's efforts to become an educated person. It can't be easy. But often the more you learn about the English language, the simpler your prose gets. Using lots of big words in strange ways is what bright but naïve kids often do, until they have read enough good writing to show them how unnecessary it is.

Once again Droopy's fair-weather friend, Roget's Thesaurus, stabs him in the back.

[_Buffalo]

What is it with Droops, Will, and Wade, and their ridiculous style of writing? It’s these long convoluted sentences trying to express ideas that can be done in less than half of the verbiage, but they look for excuses to drop three dollar words and the end result is something out of Dante’s 9th level of hell. Each of them could be one of Satan’s heads and instead of chewing traitors, they chew up metaphors, analogies, dog Latin phrases, with the end result being something like this:

With the amazing proliferation of the lynch mob, I think this thread has now reached critical mass and can officially qualify as group hysteria. Perhaps a commemorative medalian is in order--embosed with an icon comprised of pitch forks and torches and the phrase, "Vulgas Mente, multisque unus" (Mob Mentality, many against the one)

They're patterning their language after the kind of writing Fair puts out - argumentum verbosium with a strong dose of clumsy pedantry.

[_Droopy]

I don't, if you haven't grasped it by now, place a great deal of veracity in what someone laboring within the constraints and boundaries of your own brain power thinks about mine.

That's a new way of using the word "veracity", I think.

For those at 7th to 8th grade reading comprehension and general intellectual capacity, veracity is defined as:

1. Adherence to the truth; truthfulness.
2. Conformity to fact or truth; accuracy or precision: a report of doubtful veracity.
3. Something that is true.

Hence, the veracity of any statement is the degree to which that statement conforms or adheres to the truth (an actual state of affairs in the world) or is accurate and precise in its description of phenomena.

I don't believe I have ever seen an educated native English speaker writing of "placing" veracity in something.

I do not place any degree of adherence, accuracy, or truthfulness in Buffalo's perceptions (or claims of his perceptions) of my intelligence or intellect. It is a report, as the definition says, of "doubtful veracity."

I think Droopy really mean something like "credence" - you can certainly "place credence" in something in normal English usage - again, try the exact phrase in Google, and see how common the phrase is.

I meant "veracity" because I meant to convey that Buffalo's claims regarding me are not accurate or truthful.

I sincerely applaud Droopy's efforts to become an educated person. It can't be easy. But often the more you learn about the English language, the simpler your prose gets. Using lots of big words in strange ways is what bright but naïve kids often do, until they have read enough good writing to show them how unnecessary it is.

See Chap.
See Chap run.
See Chap type on the keyboard.
See Chap spill Captain Morgan on the keyboard and short out the keyboard.
See Jane smack Chap over the head with smoking keyboard.
See a stream of misogynistic profanity flow from Chap's lips with great veracity.
See Chap run.

[_Buffalo]