Please listen to the apostates, COB!

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_zeezrom
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Please listen to the apostates, COB!

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Dear COB,

This is a letter for all the people at COB that are asked to monitor the Internet for the latest ideas being discussed. I want you (TSM in particular) to know that I have loved ones still attending your church and therefore have a vested interest in it. I hope you know that I really would like to see change in the church. I hope you know that just because I have left, I have not given up on change. I have hope that you can change because I love and respect the people in my life that still remain a part of the church. I don't want the COB to implode and be destroyed. That would hurt the people in my life. I am not out to destroy you just because I don't believe or take part in your religion.

This is a plea for you to consider change and stop being afraid. Don't be afraid of losing members. Don't be afraid of ridicule. Don't be afraid of showing an about face. Be strong! Be honest! Embrace the past and confront it. Own it. It is a dirty past but in a way, that makes it beautiful because of the color. Your believers can still find the divine in this colorful past. Please stop trying to make the church be something it is not. Please stop being afraid of people that are still in the church and ask you to change.

I hope you will print this letter and show it to the prophet and discuss it.

Sincerely,

Zee the apostate
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)

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_stemelbow
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Re: Please listen to the apostates, COB!

Post by _stemelbow »

I don't know exactly what you mean, Zee. What change are you hoping to see? Do you acknolwedge that plenty of changes have occurred within the church? Its hard to tell on either of these.

History is filled with "bad" things. What exactly are you hoping to see on that front?
Love ya tons,
Stem


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_Joseph
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Re: Please listen to the apostates, COB!

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Be Honest???!!!

You do truly live in a fairy tale world.
"This is how INGORNAT these fools are!" - darricktevenson

Bow your head and mutter, what in hell am I doing here?

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_jon
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Re: Please listen to the apostates, COB!

Post by _jon »

Dear COB,

Give the money back.
If you can fund a multi billion dollar mall with cash then you have filched enough.
Give it back...
'Church pictures are not always accurate' (The Nehor May 4th 2011)

Morality is doing what is right, regardless of what you are told.
Religion is doing what you are told, regardless of what is right.
_Quasimodo
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Re: Please listen to the apostates, COB!

Post by _Quasimodo »

Fascinating, Z!

It would be interesting if you received any PMs from that post.

I wonder if your seeds have fallen on stony places or if anyone at the COB will be interested enough to pay attention.
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.

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_zeezrom
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Re: Please listen to the apostates, COB!

Post by _zeezrom »

I'm sitting at a stake play and noticed Elder Ballard is here. Maybe I should present my letter to him during intermission?
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)

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_Ceeboo
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Re: Please listen to the apostates, COB!

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At the GREAT risk of asking about a word that begins with a "C"!


What is COB?


Gracias and peace,
Ceeboo
_Quasimodo
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Re: Please listen to the apostates, COB!

Post by _Quasimodo »

Ceeboo wrote:At the GREAT risk of asking about a word that begins with a "C"!


What is COB?


Gracias and peace,
Ceeboo


Hi Ceeboo!

Have no fears of the "C" word. Church Office Building (I have heard it described as phallic, though).
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.

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Re: Please listen to the apostates, COB!

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zeezrom wrote:I'm sitting at a stake play and noticed Elder Ballard is here. Maybe I should present my letter to him during intermission?


Your bravery knows no bounds!
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.

"Faith is believing something you know ain't true" Twain.
_Ceeboo
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Re: Please listen to the apostates, COB!

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Quasimodo wrote:
Ceeboo wrote:At the GREAT risk of asking about a word that begins with a "C"!


What is COB?


Gracias and peace,
Ceeboo


Hi Ceeboo!

Have no fears of the "C" word. Church Office Building (I have heard it described as phallic, though).


Hey Quasi (Good to see you)

Ahhhh, that was much easier/simple then I was guessing.

Thanks!

Peace,
Ceeboo
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