Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

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Looks like Wilbur lost his mojo again.

Run along there princess.
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

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Will Schryver wrote:
3sheets2thewind wrote:... you denied referring to Emma Smith with derogatory term.

Quite to the contrary.

I not only acknowledged it, but sincerely apologized for it.

Here is the link to the April 15, 2008 post where I made the unfortunate statement: Schryver Emma Smith Comment.

Although I was no doubt unduly stressed by having to write a $15,000 dollar check to the U.S. Treasury that day, I was still out of line when I made that comment, and it remains, in my judgment, the single worst offense of my entire message board career. Therefore I posted the following a little over the month ago:

I did not recall having said that (although I do recall having thought it on occasion).

... I am guilty of calling Emma Smith a champion bitch.

Certainly a little harsh on my part. I sincerely apologize to Emma. Upon reflection, I would merely say she was an emotionally volatile, high-maintenance woman who would have been a royal pain in the ass to deal with as a wife, and I admire Joseph Smith all the more for having put up with her all those years.

Link here.


your arrogance, lies and hypocrisy have no bounds ...

So you say.

... and it is amazing how much you love those things about your actions.

I, too, stand all amazed.

I would be on your side but for your pompous arrogant hypocrisy.

LOL!

Don't, by any means, let my hypocrisy (as you see it) become a stumbling block to your eternal salvation. I should think your own would be enough of a problem.


by all stop feeding your falsely inflated ego. you provide nothing that could help someone with their eternal salvation.

thankfully for me I rest my salvation of the true Gospel and not the rantings or example of the mad man that you are.

and yes you admitted to something only because you would be a bigger liar than you are now know to be. you are poor example of what it means to be LDS and a poor represenative of the CHurch, yet those two things you cherish most about yourself
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

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Hello Mr. Sheets,

Mr. Schryver, Mr. Simon, Mr. Englund, Mr. Droopy, and Mr. Peterson take a lot of pride in "sticking it to the apostates". Even more revealing, they generally abuse women more aggressively than they do the males. They lose their sense of propriety in their anger. The Mormonism I know and understood from my youth would never allow for Mormon priesthood holders to act like this. It's bizarre. I hope you don't allow them to affect you too much. They're not representative of most Mormon men.

Or are they...?

Do they just print what most Mormon men feel and execute within their private lives? Does Mr. Peterson enjoy Mr. Schryver's episodes? I don't know... I really don't know. The only thing I can see is what is posted on this forum, and from what I see it doesn't look very good for the Mormon church.

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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

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Will Schryver wrote:Changing the subject ... kind of.
My name is had for both good and evil--and very little in between--in the entire GSTP world.

Has anybody been counting the number of times Will alludes to how he thinks he's as cool as Joseph Smith?
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

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Analytics wrote:Has anybody been counting the number of times Will alludes to how he thinks he's as cool as Joseph Smith?


My unofficial count shows it neck and neck with Jesus.
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Analytics wrote:
Will Schryver wrote:Changing the subject ... kind of.
My name is had for both good and evil--and very little in between--in the entire GSTP world.

Has anybody been counting the number of times Will alludes to how he thinks he's as cool as Joseph Smith?


Hello Mr. Analytics,

No, but it's embarrassing. The man is clearly unhinged.

V/R
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Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Hello Mr. Sheets,

Mr. Schryver, Mr. Simon, Mr. Englund, Mr. Droopy, and Mr. Peterson take a lot of pride in "sticking it to the apostates". Even more revealing, they generally abuse women more aggressively than they do the males. They lose their sense of propriety in their anger. The Mormonism I know and understood from my youth would never allow for Mormon priesthood holders to act like this. It's bizarre. I hope you don't allow them to affect you too much. They're not representative of most Mormon men.

Or are they...?

Do they just print what most Mormon men feel and execute within their private lives? Does Mr. Peterson enjoy Mr. Schryver's episodes? I don't know... I really don't know. The only thing I can see is what is posted on this forum, and from what I see it doesn't look very good for the Mormon church.

V/R
Dr. Cam


the most pathetic thing about WS and others, is that because I do not sing hossana and lay down palm branches for WS and others I am apostate.
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

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Will,

You seem to be changing your tune somewhat. Early in the thread, questions such as these were posed: What will happen when your misogyny is more widely known? Will the Maxwell Institute publish your work knowing all of the attendant issues that have come into blinding focus in this thread? Will the MI editors continue to support your work in light of everything that's been exposed here?

What's your answer to these questions?
"[I]f, while hoping that everybody else will be honest and so forth, I can personally prosper through unethical and immoral acts without being detected and without risk, why should I not?." --Daniel Peterson, 6/4/14
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

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I've asked this repeatedly to no avail: if this criticism is really a reaction to Will's incredible apologia, then where was a similar reaction to the work of, say, Brant Gardner?
We hate to seem like we don’t trust every nut with a story, but there’s evidence we can point to, and dance while shouting taunting phrases.

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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

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Welcome to the"Celestial Twilight Zone" This eternities endless presentation of

William Spoken-of-for-good-and-evil Schryver's "Hotel California"

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Yes you can checkin anytime you want, but you can NEVER LEAVE …

sorry to simon for the shameful lift.
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