Biggest threat to the Church

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_Morley
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Re: Biggest threat to the Church

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Darin wrote:
just me wrote:Damn, I thought it was the feminists, homosexuals and intellectuals.

As someone who considers himself an aspirer of all three, I guess I'm a triple-threat!!!! :-P (I've always thought Packer's talk so SO stupid).

Darin


feminists, homosexuals and intellectuals

Umm, I think some would say that you can't be any one of them without automatically becoming the other two.
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Re: Biggest threat to the Church

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Morley wrote:
Darin wrote:As someone who considers himself an aspirer of all three, I guess I'm a triple-threat!!!! :-P (I've always thought Packer's talk so SO stupid).

Darin


feminists, homosexuals and intellectuals

Umm, I think some would say that you can't be any one of them without automatically becoming the other two.


Well, I could never get myself to "turn gay." What can I say? I've always really, really liked men. *wink*
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Re: Biggest threat to the Church

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Hey Ceeboo,

The thing is, the things you mention are quite common to other faiths/religions, perhaps even all. Oh wait, that's the same with nearly everything mentioned so far. With that, i don't think religious faith is in trouble, per se. I'm just trying to say what I perceive as something that causes me concerning my religion.
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Re: Biggest threat to the Church

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I agree with Ceeboo. My first reaction to the OP was that the Internet is the biggest threat.
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Re: Biggest threat to the Church

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Morley wrote: feminists, homosexuals and intellectuals

Umm, I think some would say that you can't be any one of them without automatically becoming the other two.

Some might say that, but then, they'd be morons.
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Re: Biggest threat to the Church

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The biggest threat to the church is a combination of logic, reason, and intellectual honesty.
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Re: Biggest threat to the Church

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stemelbow wrote:I can see how it can be seen that "middle Way" members could be a threat to the church, even if I disagree that any of them in particular are threats.

But to me the biggest threat to the Church are the arrogant, self-righteous, blatantly hypocritical jerks who I tend to find at church from time to time. Sincere, polite, thoughtful middle way, or cafeteria types (still trying to figure what that all entails) are far less problematic in my mind, and in many cases are probably beneficial in a lot of ways, than the jerks who self-identify as TBM. I'm not talking about all TBMs of course.

Let's just say I'm in somewhat of a mood today.


Naturally I agree, but I am an apostate, so my opinion probably doesn't count.
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Re: Biggest threat to the Church

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stemelbow wrote:Hey Ceeboo,

The thing is, the things you mention are quite common to other faiths/religions, perhaps even all. Oh wait, that's the same with nearly everything mentioned so far. With that, i don't think religious faith is in trouble, per se. I'm just trying to say what I perceive as something that causes me concerning my religion.


I think adherence to, and support for, individual institutionalized belief systems are very much in trouble. Faith and spirituality are changing paradigms for many in the current and coming generations - abstractions that don't demand the structure of dogmatic systems. The exceptions are found, of course, among some - but seems to me that the religions that will fare the worst are the ones that seek to grow, yet are the most demanding. It runs counter to current cultural trends.
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Re: Biggest threat to the Church

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zeezrom wrote:I agree with Ceeboo. My first reaction to the OP was that the Internet is the biggest threat.


Or, hell, just books.
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Re: Biggest threat to the Church

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just me wrote:Well, I could never get myself to "turn gay."


Me, either.
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