Middle way Mormons are in peril

[_harmony]

What leaders? The GAs could care less of john dehlin and his internet 'fame'. They are busy doing other things. And what would be the social consequences? The church is a worldwide church. The members in europe and other parts of the world have never heard of John Dehlin. If John is leading members away from the LDS church, well, that would be different. But really, the church leaders have no concern for john dehlin and his activities outside of wishing that he would come back to the fold as they would any member.

I seem to recall a certain GA getting involved in weeding out unorthodox members some 18 years ago. It may be a worldwide church, and the leadership is busy, but not too busy to deal with potential threats, no matter how localized.

More recently, wasn't there an effort to discipline Murphy, which backfired when it hit the press?

[Guest]

. . . Lou Midgley has recently locked horns with Kerry Shirts . . .

Details, please? When/where/what venue?

I'll try to hunt it up. It was on one of the blogs.

ETA: Unfortunately, I think the comments were purged. There was a blog post on Mormon Matters. Midgley appeared and tussled with Kerry. Now there is, mysteriously, only one comment on the post, something that may suggest the conflict was purged.

Maybe I have the wrong blog post. I'll keep looking.

ETA2: When I google "Mormon Mysticism Midgley," I get "Thanks especially also to Reed Russell and Louis Midgley, both gents of whom I admire..." but it does not show up on the page.

[_moksha]

The Church could sort all these miscreants out with a simple question:

Do you ever think for yourselves any thoughts not on the approved list?

How wonderful it would be to see a ward were they all nodded in unison.

[_harmony]

The Church could sort all these miscreants out with a simple question:

Do you ever think for yourselves any thoughts not on the approved list?

How wonderful it would be to see a ward were they all nodded in unison.

Not in my ward.

[_moksha]

Harmony, all this suggests to me that the biggest challenge to the Church is resisting any urge to become a cult of obedience. Let's stay a Church and worship God.

[_Runtu]

Harmony, all this suggests to me that the biggest challenge to the Church is resisting any urge to become a cult of obedience. Let's stay a Church and worship God.

How are you supposed to worship God without being obedient?

[_just me]

Harmony, all this suggests to me that the biggest challenge to the Church is resisting any urge to become a cult of obedience. Let's stay a Church and worship God.

How are you supposed to worship God without being obedient?

I think by singing.

[_harmony]

Harmony, all this suggests to me that the biggest challenge to the Church is resisting any urge to become a cult of obedience. Let's stay a Church and worship God.

How are you supposed to worship God without being obedient?

The trick is knowing who to be obedient to... God or the church.

[_RockSlider]

I think by singing.

Whole heartedly agree
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvo7zybJ ... re=related

[_zeezrom]

The trick is knowing who to be obedient to... God or the church.

if we took church out of the equation, God would become undefined and inconsistent due to everyone's differing views and opinions.