Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

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Re: Other Incidents

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beastie wrote:LOL. This thread is entirely about Will's conduct. In order to determine whether or not this thread is simply a bunch of malicious 'smears' or if it accurately represents Will's behavior would require someone to, you know....be concerned with, or at least willing to investigate, Will's conduct. Which you aren't.


Beastie,

In case you haven't noticed , the charade is over. So, no need to keep pretending this isn't a hit piece--a point that my questions were intended to drive home. If the folks here were really outraged about the supposed ill-treatment of women (or men for that matter), they wouldn't be focused on a few pies thrown upside some female heads by one individual during an ongong massive food fight engaged in by most of the people in the metaphoric cafeteria. Get a grip.

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Re: Other Incidents

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wenglund wrote:
Beastie,

In case you haven't noticed , the charade is over. So, no need to keep pretending this isn't a hit piece--a point that my questions were intended to drive home. If the folks here were really outraged about the supposed ill-treatment of women (or men for that matter), they wouldn't be focused on a few pies thrown upside some female heads by one individual during an ongong massive food fight engaged in by most of the people in the metaphoric cafeteria. Get a grip.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-


I don't know that people are "outraged". I've never taken Will seriously enough to be outraged. What people are doing here is demonstrating a pattern of behavior on Will's part, in particular in regards to how he handles disagreements with women. It serves as a caution to senior apologists, who may be unaware of Will's seedy underbelly. But, have no doubt, it will come out in a more public venue one day, if Will's "I'm an important apologist" fantasies come to fruition.

But I am completely unsurprised that you don't understand this.
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

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beastie wrote:Wade,

You have the most delightful case of unwarranted condescension that I've ever seen.


I can see how it may appear that way to your vacuous and projective mind.

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Re: Other Incidents

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beastie wrote:
wenglund wrote:
Beastie,

In case you haven't noticed , the charade is over. So, no need to keep pretending this isn't a hit piece--a point that my questions were intended to drive home. If the folks here were really outraged about the supposed ill-treatment of women (or men for that matter), they wouldn't be focused on a few pies thrown upside some female heads by one individual during an ongong massive food fight engaged in by most of the people in the metaphoric cafeteria. Get a grip.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-


I don't know that people are "outraged". I've never taken Will seriously enough to be outraged. What people are doing here is demonstrating a pattern of behavior on Will's part, in particular in regards to how he handles disagreements with women. It serves as a caution to senior apologists, who may be unaware of Will's seedy underbelly. But, have no doubt, it will come out in a more public venue one day, if Will's "I'm an important apologist" fantasies come to fruition.

But I am completely unsurprised that you don't understand this.


Speaking of clueless, you just unwittingly underscored my point. Nice going.

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wenglund wrote:
Speaking of clueless, you just unwittingly underscored my point. Nice going.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-


No doubt, Wade, no doubt. You always have the upper hand.
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Re: Other Incidents

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beastie wrote:No doubt, Wade, no doubt. You always have the upper hand.


I don't view it that way, but if it works for you....

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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

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Kevin Graham wrote:
Droopy wrote:Hmmm, sounds like the typical blue collar union Democrat voter snarling under his breath as he gets into his Toyota Corolla after a hard day's work at the plant as he watches his boss get into his Lincoln Towncar.

These things all kind of "hang together" don't they?


I work for a company in Atlanta that hires hundreds of non-union "blue collar" workers and I can assure you that they are overwhelmingly Republican. But it is nice to see your true colors come forth as you attack the working class and continue to worship the wealthy.


Hey, Droopy can chat them up about Krauthammer as he shines their shoes.
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

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wenglund wrote:
For a pre-schooler, that was as good a response as could be expected. [Thumbs up]

Thanks, -Wade Englund-


Good morning Wade,

First, I offer you my sincere apology (Although it obviously failed, I was simply and only trying to share a smile with you)

The following suggestion will be elevated to a 5th grade level:

In this thread alone, you have spent enormous time and effort attempting to defend something that is clearly indefensible. (This speaks volumes all by itself, in my opinion)

It is crystal clear (to me anyway) that your entire focus and efforts are being completely consumed by WHO you attempt to defend, while having little/nothing to do with WHAT you attempt to stand for or defend. (Again, this speaks volumes to me)

Wade, every now and then (no matter what color jersey someone has stapled to their torso) it might be worth it to weigh, consider, and measure what you post before posting it (People are reading)

Anyway, just my thoughts.

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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

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Will Schryver wrote:Scratch:
It sure is interesting, Will, that you've been summoning MI apologists to come and review this thread.

What are you talking about?

I have neither “summoned” any “MI apologists,” nor am I aware of any coming to “review this thread.”

Where do you get this stuff?!

It's not surprising, either, to hear them reciting the same-old same-old about "context" and "distortion." That's always been the "hail mary" tactic of the Mopologists.

Who is “them?”

Well, at least there's now no denying that influential people at the MI are fully aware of your behavior.

“Influential people at the MI …”?

Where do you get this stuff?

You can continue to backpedal and make denials …

Backpedal from what? “Make denials” of what?

Where do you get this stuff?

… about them "yukking it up" or being "amused" at your antics …

Believe me when I say that, if anyone is “yukking it up” or “being amused,” it’s in consequence of your antics, not mine.

… but the fact remains: they are fully aware of your actions …

I don’t think many people, anywhere, let alone in the Maxwell Institute, are “fully aware” or even “faintly aware” of the nature of the Will Schryver caricature that has been manufactured and is aggressively promulgated by the inmates of The Great and Spacious Trailer Park©.

… and there (sic) response has not been to scold or censure you.

Their response has been non-existent, as far as I can tell.

They have given a tacit "pass" to your misogynistic behavior.

You are referring again, of course, to the Will Schryver caricature that has been manufactured and is aggressively promulgated by the inmates of The Great and Spacious Trailer Park©.

Your talent for tall tales is a marvelous work and a wonder.

So, I suppose we'll simply wait till they publish your work (which they might not do after all, in light of all this---it may be seen as too much of a risk), at which time a link will be emailed to the appropriate news outlets.

Don’t be too surprised when you discover that things that seem to have life in the GSTP holodeck lose their material cohesion when one attempts to take them out of this uniquely controlled venue.

Bumping to remind Scratch he has left questions unanswered.

It is interesting to observe that, without DCP and me, activity on this message board decreases to just a notch above the imperceptible. It appears that, absent the motivation only we can provide, you rapidly lose the capacity to focus the increasingly moribund energy of the GSTP hive mind.
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

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Oh, hi there, Will. I was under the impression that you'd fled the scene in fear. I guess not?

In any case: what about my questions do you not understand? You stated, earlier in the thread, that the MI people have no problem with your antics, and you suggested that many of them actually find your online behavior "funny."

As for the senior MI apologists who was summoned.... Well, do you really not know? *Some*body alerted "Silver Hammer" to what was happening here. Did they really leave you in the dark about "Silver Hammer's" identity? Or did you guys all agree that your best best is to play dumb?

All that said, I do have kind of a separate question involving your conflicts with other junior-tier apologists, though perhaps that's best saved for a new thread....
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