Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

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Still no answer from Will, I see.
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

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Hello Mr. Schryver,

Please answer the questions.

Does your devout Mormon wife delight in you calling women bitches, and insinuating another is a whore?

What does your "Wenchette" daughter think of you calling women bitches, and insinuating another is a whore?

V/R
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Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

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Kishkumen:
Ever onward, Will Schryver. You magnificent bastard.

Of course, bastards can hardly be held personally responsible for their parentage. That said, better “magnificent” than many of the alternatives. As one poet has sung:

I can't wait to see the old man's face
When I win the race


Strike a chord with gusto on your favorite guitar.

Perhaps the best advice you’ve ever given me.

Sing a song about slaying the apostate clowns of MDB.

I’d rather “sing a song about willful self-immolation.” There is, after all, nothing so moving as high tragedy.

Make sweet love to your "wench."

Almost as good as the guitar advice.

And throw some popcorn down that golden gullet while you and Royal examine your timeless contributions to the Great Cause.

I do like popcorn.

I am just happy to have seen it all unfold.

Ever the spectator, never the player.

The thought will provide me that one extra little spark of warmth in my lonely corner of the Telestial Kingdom.

I’m sure you won’t be too lonely. I won’t be surprised if The Great and Spacious Trailer Park© is translated there in toto.
I thought myself the wiser to have viewed the evidence left of such a great demise. I followed every step. But the only thing I ever learned before the journey's end was there was nothing there to learn, only something to forget.
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

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Doctor Scratch wrote:Still no answer from Will, I see.

Au contraire, mon docteur!

There have been answers o'plenty. It's your questions that need work.
I thought myself the wiser to have viewed the evidence left of such a great demise. I followed every step. But the only thing I ever learned before the journey's end was there was nothing there to learn, only something to forget.
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

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Will Schryver wrote:That said, better “magnificent” than many of the alternatives.


Indeed. I say better to excel at something.

Will Schryver wrote:Perhaps the best advice you’ve ever given me.


Could be! How can you go wrong with that one?

Will Schryver wrote:I’d rather “sing a song about willful self-immolation.” There is, after all, nothing so moving as high tragedy.


Don't look so downcast, Will. If you are obedient, I am sure your offering will be acceptable in the Lord's eyes.

Will Schryver wrote:Almost as good as the guitar advice.


Almost? Wow. You are a music lover. LOL.

Will Schryver wrote:I do like popcorn.


A point of commonality between us. There is more than one. The music, the drama, the popcorn. If only I weren't a reprobate, apostate evangelist ne'er-do-well.

Will Schryver wrote:Ever the spectator, never the player.


Au contraire, mon frere! As you have so many times accused. Don't back down now!

Will Schryver wrote:I’m sure you won’t be too lonely. I won’t be surprised if The Great and Spacious Trailer Park© is translated there in toto.


Maybe you can visit and point a mocking finger for old times' sake. Then our joy would surely be multiplied.
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Hello Mr. Schryver,

My new name is: Isaac

V/R
Dr. Cam

It's no wonder you're so easy to laugh at.
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

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Will Schryver wrote: *endless vapidity*


Hello Mr. Schryver,

I'm starting to think Mr. Kevin is spot on when calling you a coward...

Please answer these questions.

Does your devout Mormon wife delight in you calling women bitches, and insinuating another is a whore?

What does your "Wenchette" daughter think of you calling women bitches, and insinuating another is a whore?

V/R
Dr. Cam
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

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Will has an old-school Mormon view of women. I'm sure his women know their place. They stand behind him in his righteous priesthood indignation.

He attacks strong, independent women who don't know their place. How dare they have an opinion?
I'm the apostate your bishop warned you about.
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

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Will Schryver wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Your devout Mormon wife delights in you calling women bitches ...

I do not, as a matter of general practice, refer to "women" in such a manner--as my substantial posting history clearly indicates.

In any case, I believe I have already given my definitive answer concerning your questions:

"… I did, in fact, obliquely refer to beastlie and dissonance (once each, as I recall) with variants on the appellative "bitch." But it was concluded that my judgment was so near to the facts of the matter that I could not be convicted by a jury of my peers."

http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=369575#p369575


Thank you SO much for bringing this to our attention again.

Let's look more closely at the statement in which this was embedded:

You might be interested in the fact that a couple people were once given the task of investigating the basis for the oft-repeated claim of my wanton vulgarity. What was the result of this rather exhaustive investigation? It was that, although a few minor blushes were induced (amidst the belly laughs), there was deemed to be virtually no substantive basis for the allegations; quotes were found to have been routinely taken out of context, thus entirely altering their true meaning, and a large proportion of the "vulgarities" attributed to me were entirely fabricated out of whole cloth (like, for example, the frequently repeated allegation that I called the golden-haired Kimberly Ann a "whore.")

(Kimberly does remain somewhat famous [among a small circle of otherwise respected academics] on account of my descriptions of her having once squeezed her then more voluptuous spirit tabernacle into a slinky black three-sizes-too-small dress at the 2006 Exmormon Foundation conference in Salt Lake City, which I attended. One wouldn't have believed it possible to carry melons in a pair of thimbles suspended from a thread, but miracles happen almost every day in this jaded world of cynical disbelievers.)

It was, I must confess, ascertained that I did, in fact, obliquely refer to beastlie and dissonance (once each, as I recall) with variants on the appellative "bitch." But it was concluded that my judgment was so near to the facts of the matter that I could not be convicted by a jury of my peers. LOL! Nevertheless, I have long since refrained from any similar rhetorical excesses, notwithstanding the severe violence thus inflicted against my natural tendencies.


On this thread, Will has followed silver hammer's lead and insisted that he was not referencing members of the MI with his "small circle of otherwise respected academics", some of whom were given the charge of investigating Will's behavior. Now he insists that he knows other academics, and it was, I suppose, that group that was given the charge of investigating Will's behavior. It's a very odd proposition, by the way, that respected academics who associate with the self-identified non-academic Schryver and are interested enough to investigate his behavior, and yet have nothing to do with MI. But aside from that, it is even more odd that this group of academics who have nothing to do with MI not only were interested enough to investigate Will's behavior, but were also familiar enough with me to conclude that Will justly called me a bitch.

Curiouser and curiouser.
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

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by the way, Will, is this small group of otherwise respected academics even LDS? One has to wonder since 1 Nephi 14:11 apparently meant nothing to them.
We hate to seem like we don’t trust every nut with a story, but there’s evidence we can point to, and dance while shouting taunting phrases.

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