White for white, rich for rich, poor for poor...

[_Called2Swerve]

I must of read that wrong. I thought you were suggesting that the mixing of races in marriage should be discouraged.

[_Doctor Scratch]

The manual is also disturbing (in my opinion) insofar as it urges young men to select women who are submissive, compliant, unlikely to talk back, etc. In short: it encourages LDS boys to look for women who will gladly "bow down" to priesthood authority.

You either went to the wrong link or your reading comprehension is even weaker then usual.

I don't think so:

• What characteristics of young women are socially and spiritually appealing to you?

Write the young men’s answers on the chalkboard, such as—

1. Is unselfish.
2. Shows respect for me.
3. Has initiative.
4. Is considerate of others.
5. Shows patience in stressful situations.
6. Is an active Church member.
7. Has a testimony of the gospel and obeys the commandments.
8. Maintains a healthy outlook toward life.
9. Possesses values and goals similar to mine.

Ask each young man to select what he thinks are the three most important attributes on the chalkboard. Take a vote to determine which areas the young men consider most important. Discuss why they voted the way they did.

Items 2, 5, 7, and 9 fit what I described earlier. Then again, Nehor, maybe you think it's cool to teach young LDS men that they should desire women who "obey" and who are "respectful" to male authority?

[_DarkHelmet]

I must of read that wrong. I thought you were suggesting that the mixing of races in marriage should be discouraged.

I'm getting confused as well by The Nehor's argument. I believe the Nehor is claiming this statement is not racist, it is just generally a good idea for marriage, even in 2011:

We recommend that people marry those who are of the same racial background generally

While I would agree that this was a fairly common belief in 1976 (and even 1981) and probably prevented some difficulties back then, interracial marriage is no longer a social taboo, and is fairly common, even within the church. These old fashioned beliefs are considered racist and outdated today. So, while many would agree that that was a common belief in 1976, it seems only The Nehor believes it is still relevant today.

[_stemelbow]

Now to sound like the foolish TBM that I am...

What if the mixing of races is a necessity in causing us all to become one? Finally, we'd be able to see people for who they are and not for what they look like.

That's probably a little bit weird though so I won't stick to that thinking. We can definitely find unity even if there is racial diversity.

[_Wisdom Seeker]

I'm getting confused as well by The Nehor's argument. I believe the Nehor is claiming this statement is not racist, it is just generally a good idea for marriage, even in 2011:

I hope the day comes where skin color and physical features do not suggest a culture at all. Where nothing will be referred to as belonging to a racial group like "Black Comedy" or "Latin Music. Instead we will mix the best together and instead of music and entertainment and all grab what we like and the color of one's skin will mean nothing more then how much sunscreen you need.

I think what Nehor is trying to say here is that he would like to see a day where there is no judgment in racial diversity, but maintaining a clearly defined racial diversity is important and that races should not intermingle. Does that sound about right to you Nehor?

[_Chap]

I'm getting confused as well by The Nehor's argument. I believe the Nehor is claiming this statement is not racist, it is just generally a good idea for marriage, even in 2011:

We recommend that people marry those who are of the same racial background generally

While I would agree that this was a fairly common belief in 1976 (and even 1981) and probably prevented some difficulties back then, interracial marriage is no longer a social taboo, and is fairly common, even within the church. These old fashioned beliefs are considered racist and outdated today. So, while many would agree that that was a common belief in 1976, it seems only The Nehor believes it is still relevant today.

Yup. It would have made good sense if the guidance had been something like:

"If you are thinking of getting married to someone of markedly different background and experience from your own, ask yourself whether you have enough else in common to be sure that any consequent difficulties, misunderstandings or mismatch of expectations will not put your relationship under strain. Take your time about coming to a decision like this. Be aware too that marrying someone from precisely the same background does not guarantee happiness either."

To say flat out:

We recommend that people marry those who are of the same racial background generally

is however just crass.

[_jon]

Not crass, just racist.

[_just me]

Wait. "Black Comedy" is not about skin color or race. LOL

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_comedy

[_Lucretia MacEvil]

Yup. It would have made good sense if the guidance had been something like:

"If you are thinking of getting married to someone of markedly different background and experience from your own, ask yourself whether you have enough else in common to be sure that any consequent difficulties, misunderstandings or mismatch of expectations will not put your relationship under strain. Take your time about coming to a decision like this. Be aware too that marrying someone from precisely the same background does not guarantee happiness either."

Well said. This thread reminds me of a conversation I once had with a chatty cab driver. He shared with me his distress that his wife was cheating on him. When he revealed that he'd only known her two weeks before he married her, I observed that perhaps he should have gotten to know her a little better first. He said, no, that was not necessary because she was Hungarian, as was he.

[_The Nehor]

I think what Nehor is trying to say here is that he would like to see a day where there is no judgment in racial diversity, but maintaining a clearly defined racial diversity is important and that races should not intermingle. Does that sound about right to you Nehor?

Wrong. I think that maintaining racial diversity is pointless. However as long as different racial groups bring different expectations and cultural backgrounds to marriage you should be careful to make sure your views are compatible before marrying.

I will be ecstatic the day race is no longer an issue to anyone anywhere in regards to marriage or anything else. Maybe the Millenium....