Mormon Church negotiates for Italian Welfare!

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jskains wrote:*Eyeroll* Considering the live witnesses to these events, I'm not really worried about lawsuits. Let me worry about that, Scratch. If I am content, you need not worry your pretty little head.

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What "live witnesses"? Name them. I'll contact them in an effort to verify your story.
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Doctor Scratch wrote:
jskains wrote:*Eyeroll* Considering the live witnesses to these events, I'm not really worried about lawsuits. Let me worry about that, Scratch. If I am content, you need not worry your pretty little head.

JMS


What "live witnesses"? Name them. I'll contact them in an effort to verify your story.


Sure. Please let me know your name, the phone number you'll be calling from, and what city you live in so when the caller ID comes through, they'll know to expect your call.

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jskains wrote:
Gadianton wrote:I'm lying about being friends with my mentor in order to protect him?


Of course. It would certainly give his behavior credibility if he actually had friends. But I can not imagine a person who bullies others could possibly have any at all.

JMS


Who am I "bullying," jskains? You were here slinging insults about Harmony on this thread, kicking out all manner of silliness about how everyone except you has gone an "ego" problem of some sort. All I did was point out that you have very little grounds for complaint.

Do you remember this old ZLMB post of yours, jskains?:

jskains wrote:People have aspirations. I've personally thought that I would love to take on the challenge of the US Presidency. I also, would at least love to take on a congressional or senate roll before I die. To some people, wanting to be president can be considered egotistical and the fuelings of a meglomaniac. However, generally I think people just kinda strug.

Positions in the LDS Faith, however, seem to have a different sense. It seems there should not be a desire to lead, rather a simple desire to take whatever callings you are given. What if, however, one does have a strong desire to be a GA, or even eventually a part of the First Presidency? How about thinking that one would not mind even leading the entire flock as Prophet? Is this over the top? Is this extreme or egotistical?


Why is it, I wonder, that a person who's incapable of assessing his own egotism, is sitting around accusing others of being egotistical? What, I'm prompted to ask out loud here, is wrong with this picture? Hmmmm?
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jskains wrote:
Doctor Scratch wrote:What "live witnesses"? Name them. I'll contact them in an effort to verify your story.


Sure. Please let me know your name, the phone number you'll be calling from, and what city you live in so when the caller ID comes through, they'll know to expect your call.

JMS


So, I guess this is an admission on your part that you will not (read: cannot, because it was made up) support your claims?

Well, that's hardly surprising. It reminds me of the time when you made up a colossal, gargantuan lie about a threat and a police detective coming to interview you at your house, and subsequently you underwent a 5-alarm meltdown after getting called on the carpet. Remember "tjholiday," jskains? You remember all that? Do you need me to refresh your memory, or are you going to own up to the truth here?
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Doctor Scratch wrote:Why is it, I wonder, that a person who's incapable of assessing his own egotism, is sitting around accusing others of being egotistical? What, I'm prompted to ask out loud here, is wrong with this picture? Hmmmm?


Could it be that jskains and Simon Belmont are soul brothers?
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Doctor Scratch wrote:Who am I "bullying," jskains? You were here slinging insults about Harmony on this thread, kicking out all manner of silliness about how everyone except you has gone an "ego" problem of some sort. All I did was point out that you have very little grounds for complaint.


Slinging insults? LOL, I love when you leave out facts. You do know that is a form of lying. Do you take responsibility for your lies?

I commented on the fact she was lying about the leaders of the Church. With no proof, she has accused them of misappropriating tithing money with no proof.

Just so I am aware, who was mud slinging? I'm missing the point.

Do you remember this old ZLMB post of yours, jskains?:


Thanks for proving my other comment that you store things for weaponry. Because taking old posts out of context is anything but a form of dishonestly, right? Has nothing to do with the topic, but certainly you like to find little places to take old dirt and try to make something out of it that isn't there.

Why is it, I wonder, that a person who's incapable of assessing his own egotism, is sitting around accusing others of being egotistical? What, I'm prompted to ask out loud here, is wrong with this picture? Hmmmm?


Coming from the king Ego on this board who gets his jollies through cyber-bullying....

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Doctor Scratch wrote:So, I guess this is an admission on your part that you will not (read: cannot, because it was made up) support your claims?


I told you I'd provide those names and numbers if you provide your own. What are you afraid of, Scratch? You think you can remain anonymous while others provide you with personal information?

Plus I would not personally post that kind of information. I'd like to provide it to you in the form of a phone call. With identify theft, I'd like to keep my friends and family's information off the public internet.

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jskains wrote:Slinging insults? LOL, I love when you leave out facts. You do know that is a form of lying. Do you take responsibility for your lies?

I commented on the fact she was lying about the leaders of the Church. With no proof, she has accused them of misappropriating tithing money with no proof.


That's a pretty poor characterization of what you wrote, jskains. Look:

jskains, slinging insults wrote:I never understood why you use the handle "Harmony". Your antagonism, wild accusations (often with little to no bases in any sense of reality) and your temper tantrums have never been in harmony with anything.


What does any of this have to do with proof? What does any of this have to do with lying? The bulk of your comment here is straight up ad hominem attack. You mention, en passant, a bit about "little to no bases [sic] in any sense of reality," but I think even you will have to concede that the general thrust of your remark was one of personal attack. You didn't deal with facts or offer up any counterargument whatsoever.

Just so I am aware, who was mud slinging?


You were.

I'm missing the point.


Yes, I know.

Do you remember this old ZLMB post of yours, jskains?:


Thanks for proving my other comment that you store things for weaponry.


*I* don't have to story anything, jskains. It's archived right here on the board.

Because taking old posts out of context is anything but a form of dishonestly, right?


Would you like me to supply the full context, complete with Sophocles showing you to be either embarrassingly forgetful about your own gaffes, or a bald-faced liar?
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jskains wrote:
Doctor Scratch wrote:So, I guess this is an admission on your part that you will not (read: cannot, because it was made up) support your claims?


I told you I'd provide those names and numbers if you provide your own. What are you afraid of, Scratch? You think you can remain anonymous while others provide you with personal information?


You know, jskains, it's awfully suspicious when you start throwing out all these "conditionals" after being cornered for what seems to be a bit of rather flagrant dishonesty (and possibly libel) on your part. To recap:

---You tell an utterly fabulous and vicious story about a person who dared to criticize your behavior.
---You claim to have a ton of "eye witnesses" to the story, none of whom you'll name.
---You claim to have gotten emails in which a person committed criminal acts, and yet these have been conveniently expunged from your email Inbox.

Why is it, jskains, that all your evidence has conveniently vanished into thin air?

Plus I would not personally post that kind of information. I'd like to provide it to you in the form of a phone call. With identify theft, I'd like to keep my friends and family's information off the public internet.

JMS


There are all kinds of ways you can substantiate your claims. You could contact one of these people and ask them to register here and post, for example. You don't have to post anyone's name, phone number, or email address in order to provide evidence for your claims about C.J. McBride.

Or maybe we should make an effort to contact Mr. McBride, so as to get his side of the story?
You've already been in contact with him via email. Why not email him and invite him to post?
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So let me get this straight. You believe that I am capable of a 5-alarm meltdown, indicating I am, as you claim, mentally unstable. You take offense to the fact I brought up another man's disability. Mental instability is a form of disability.

Obviously bringing up dirt over and over is a trigger for this mental instability. Repeatedly driving someone to extreme meltdowns can often lead so suicide.

So is it your intention to push me do the breaking point, driving me to another meltdown? Would you take personal responsibility for your role if in fact I did experience yet another breakdown? Is your intention to possibly go as far as try to drive me to suicide? I'd just like to know what your plan is?

Thanks,
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