Where can we see the actual writings of Father Abraham?
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Where can we see the actual writings of Father Abraham?
Joseph Smith said the papyrus he translated had the actual writings of Father Abraham - by his own hand. Not by scribes or others, but by him personally.
Where can we see this writing?
I have been told that if it existed it would be the oldest biblical writing in existence and one of the greatest religious finds in history.
Why is ld-sinc keeping this from the world?
Where can we see this writing?
I have been told that if it existed it would be the oldest biblical writing in existence and one of the greatest religious finds in history.
Why is ld-sinc keeping this from the world?
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Re: Where can we see the actual writings of Father Abraham?
Joseph wrote:Joseph Smith said the papyrus he translated had the actual writings of Father Abraham - by his own hand.
No he didn't. He said it was "purported" to be written by Abraham.
Not by scribes or others, but by him personally.
Nehor smart smart smart. Joseph really dumb.
Where can we see this writing?
You can't.
I have been told that if it existed it would be the oldest biblical writing in existence and one of the greatest religious finds in history.
Smash that strawman. Even your feeble wit should be able to pull it off......maybe.
Why is ld-sinc keeping this from the world?
Because you made it up. Joseph, you have Jimmy Hoffa's body in the crawlspace under your house. Why are you keeping this from the world?
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Re: Where can we see the actual writings of Father Abraham?
Joseph SMASH Nehor! SMASH SMASH! Joseph hate Nehor! Nehor very bad! Joseph SMASH! Joseph eat cookie later?
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Re: Where can we see the actual writings of Father Abraham?
http://LDS.org/scriptures/pgp/abr/1.16?lang=eng
A Translation of some ancient Records that have fallen into our hands from the catacombs of Egypt. The writings of Abraham while he was in Egypt, called the Book of Abraham, written by his own hand, upon papyrus. (See History of the Church, 2:235–36, 348–51.)
A Translation of some ancient Records that have fallen into our hands from the catacombs of Egypt. The writings of Abraham while he was in Egypt, called the Book of Abraham, written by his own hand, upon papyrus. (See History of the Church, 2:235–36, 348–51.)
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Re: Where can we see the actual writings of Father Abraham?
Buffalo wrote:A Translation of some ancient Records that have fallen into our hands from the catacombs of Egypt.
True.
The writings of Abraham while he was in Egypt, called the Book of Abraham, written by his own hand, upon papyrus.
Yep, Abraham wrote them on papyrus. Then they were transcribed.
(See History of the Church, 2:235–36, 348–51.)
Okay, check those sources why don't you? It will help you avoid embarrassing yourself defending Joseph's idiocy.
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Re: Where can we see the actual writings of Father Abraham?
The Nehor wrote:Buffalo wrote:A Translation of some ancient Records that have fallen into our hands from the catacombs of Egypt.
True.The writings of Abraham while he was in Egypt, called the Book of Abraham, written by his own hand, upon papyrus.
Yep, Abraham wrote them on papyrus. Then they were transcribed.(See History of the Church, 2:235–36, 348–51.)
Okay, check those sources why don't you? It will help you avoid embarrassing yourself defending Joseph's idiocy.
Nothing there about the writings having been transcribed. The prophetic word on the subject is this:
"In the present no. will be found the commencement of the Records discovered in Egypt some time since as penned by the hand of Father Abraham which I shall continue to translate & publish as fast as possible till the whole is completed. . . " ("Joseph Smith to the Times and Seasons" Joseph Smith Collection, LDS Archives)
Joseph told Charles Adams and Josiah Quincy, visitors to Nauvoo: "This [pointing to the papyri] was written by the hand of Abraham and means so and so. If anyone denies it, let him prove the contrary. I say it" (Diary of Charles Adams, entry of 15 May 1844, in Proceedings of the Massachusetts Historical Society 68 (1952):285, cited in (Larson 1996, p.95)). Joseph pointed to a character on the papyrus and told a reporter from the Quincy Whig that it was the signature of Abraham (The Quincy Whig, Oct. 17, 1840, cited in Larson 1996, p.94).
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
Re: Where can we see the actual writings of Father Abraham?
Why does anyone give this moron (the poster Joseph) the time of day?
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Re: Where can we see the actual writings of Father Abraham?
Simon Belmont wrote:Why does anyone give this moron (the poster Joseph) the time of day?
Your credibility in determining intelligence of other people is infinitesimal.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
Re: Where can we see the actual writings of Father Abraham?
Buffalo wrote:Your credibility in determining intelligence of other people is infinitesimal.
Har har.
Okay let's clear this up, here and now.
I typed that on my phone. It autocorrected to that word, and I didn't pay any attention to it before I posted.
But the real problem is you believe this dubmass has any intelligence whatsoever? Now that is hilarious.
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Re: Where can we see the actual writings of Father Abraham?
So, Joethecoxman was lying?
"This is how INGORNAT these fools are!" - darricktevenson
Bow your head and mutter, what in hell am I doing here?
infaymos wrote: "Peterson is the defacto king ping of the Mormon Apologetic world."
Bow your head and mutter, what in hell am I doing here?
infaymos wrote: "Peterson is the defacto king ping of the Mormon Apologetic world."