No Homosexuals wanted

[Guest]

getting off is natural, but there are no 100% queer mammals. show me a male dog that takes it in the butt and gives only to other male dogs in the butt and the same dog would never consider going for a bitch in heat. all-male species don't have a choice to be queers they are just an 'all-male species'. animals don't know right from wrong.

Actually well said.... As I also mentioned, there are no "queer" animals. There are only animals who's instinct is to "hump". Animals not caring what they hump, even a persons leg is not the same thing as "homosexuality" in the animal kingdom.

This is a big lie homosexuals and liberals tell themselves to make themselves apparently feel good and intelligent. But, they don't realize that their argument simply doesn't work as I and you have explained.

exactly 99.9% of the time animals just want to get off.

Are you familiar with de Waal's work with bonobos? Or any biology 101 course's coverage of animal mimicry?

I have to ask again. Where are you getting this sh--, er stuff.

when the animals display homosexual traits they are also kicked out of the group. proving that in nature it is 'more natural to not allow gays to be with the group'.

this research also states that these gay animals have smaller brains than the heterosexual animals. this research also stated some kind of genetic disorder that makes these animals think they are the opposite sex. which leads to the conclusion the animal isn't gay at all. no research has shown this abnormality in humans.

[_Obiwan]

Obiwan, you are an offensive, small minded bigot. Your heart is filled with hate with your fellow man. The only way you could make the LDS church look worse is if you murdered homosexual people. Your ignorance is so epic, it makes Schryver's ego look about the size of a photon packet. Your willfully insane babblings are vile, stupid, and you deserve to be beaten with dildos by a bear and a butterfly and I will sell tickets. Your own sexual deviancy is so crooked, TAO raises an eyebrow.

Welcome to my foe list, bitch.

Screw you slimeball bigot.... If you actually read my words carefully, you would know that there is NOTHING "bigoted" in them.

I know who I am, my friends know who I am, including my gay friends, so sorry I'm not impressed by your judgment skills as to my character, especially from someone that uses the "b" word.... tisk tisk. :(

[_Obiwan]

when the animals display homosexual traits they are also kicked out of the group. proving that in nature it is 'more natural to not allow gays to be with the group'.

this research also states that these gay animals have smaller brains than the heterosexual animals. this research also stated some kind of genetic disorder that makes these animals think they are the opposite sex. which leads to the conclusion the animal may not even be gay at all. no research has shown this abnormality in humans.

Just to add..... Even in human research things are inconclusive, such as with homosexuals brains being smaller, or different in some other way. Reason being is because these are "end result" brains..... Meaning, brain sciences have already proven that the brain changes according to human learning, experiences, thoughts, etc., not in a small way either, but in large ways. It's the same how you can take an old man who can bearly walk, start having him do some weight lifting and before long he's runing. His brain also changes interestingly enough.... Thus, the idea that homosexuality is genetic is simply wrong. There is likely a genetic "propensity", but you change the environment, experiences etc. from the same kind of a child to the next and one might become gay while another will be straight as an arrow. They've already shown this is true in children and development, by taking two children exactly alike, having one stay in his current environment and then having the other put in a highly developmentally focused school, and the one in the school becomes and entirely different person than the other child who stayed in his regular environment.

Anyway.....

I want to make clear, even though I though I had, that I have no bigotry whatsoever toward gays. They can do what they wish, I even have one that's a best friend who's in a gay relationship himself. He knows I believe it's wrong, but we are still great friends. He knows I'm Mormon, etc. etc. He is however a conservative, and he does agree that gays shouldn't force themselves onto society, that their sexuality should be PRIVATE as everyone elses sexuality is. This is one reason we are best friends, because while we may differ on some things, we are alike in many things, having the same interests and thoughts. But, it's normal for good people to be different from one another. He knows I'm not a bigot, and I know it. I can see bigotry for myself, and it's wrong. Thus, those here who are calling ME the bigot for my views, are frankly themselves the actual bigots. I know bigotry, I've fought against it my whole life by beating up bullies, racists, and just plain scumbags, and I'm FAR from it.

So, those of you calling me the bigot, can just stick it..... I know my character, and I'm only bigoted against evil and wrong, not differences and human weaknesses.

[_Morley]

And "negro" in that particular instance was referring to those of African decent!
You are aware aren't you that "negros" of other black races were generally actually called something else?

So, if "negro" means what YOU say it means, then tell me how 1,000's of BLACKS of Central/South America AND the Islands, as well as India WERE in fact given the Priesthood moron???

1) You say," ...'negros' of other black races were generally actually called something else." It was because what you call "negros' of other black races" weren't considered to be racially Negroes (especially by the Church).

2) You say, "So, if "negro" means what YOU say it means..." What have I said that Negro means? I gave you a partial quote by the LDS first presidency and referred to what they said. I don't think I gave any definition of Negroes.

3) Your so-called "blacks" were given the priesthood because the Church didn't consider them to be "Negro" (or Negro enough ) to deny them the priesthood.

4) You called me a moron. I'm treating you respectfully. Reciprocate.

5) You missed addressing your claim that whites of African descent were also denied the priesthood.

[_Jersey Girl]

Obiwan

They've already shown this is true in children and development, by taking two children exactly alike, having one stay in his current environment and then having the other put in a highly developmentally focused school, and the one in the school becomes and entirely different person than the other child who stayed in his regular environment.

When you say "highly developmentally focused school", what do you mean by that?

[_Spurven Ten Sing]

In fact, in most cases what they are actually attracted to is the smallness and shortness of the female, as well as the female having had little sexual interaction and experience yet, not simply because they are children. Most pedophiles have penis size complexes, in which "smallness" of their partner is what gives them sexual confidence, whereas larger women are intimidating to their sexual ability.

To give an example, when I was in the Marine Corps, during my apostasy period, I had sex with what I presumed to be a 15 year old prostitute. Of course, she claimed to be 18, but I could tell otherwise. Was that wrong, certainly, and certainly by my own standards today, but it was certainly consensual and non-power based or forced. Of course, her pimp was clearly exerting power, cause we took longer then we apparently were supposed to, thus he wanted to make sure he was getting money, but anyway, all a sad thing.

Hmmmm....I think I have an inkling what Obiwan's "cross to bear" is.

Keep on trucking, bigot!

[_Spurven Ten Sing]

I know who I am, my friends know who I am, including my gay friends, so sorry I'm not impressed by your judgment skills as to my character, especially from someone that uses the "b" word.... tisk tisk. :(

Is it as bad as being judged by a creepy old man who knowingly banged one out with an underage, coerced prostitute?

[_Jersey Girl]

Obiwan

They've already shown this is true in children and development, by taking two children exactly alike, having one stay in his current environment and then having the other put in a highly developmentally focused school, and the one in the school becomes and entirely different person than the other child who stayed in his regular environment.

In what ways are the children in the above, "exactly alike"?

[_jon]

There WERE in fact whites who were both denied the priesthood AND had it removed because of African decent...I'm not making crap up!!!

Provide supporting references that those statements are true...

[_just me]

This world would not be the same without homosexuals in it. Good grief, as individuals they have contributed SO MUCH to the human family. I say, Hell Yeah! We want homosexuals.

And what is that exactly that somehow no other person could also do?
They have contributed nothing but more wickedness onto the world.
The good that many do, doesn't change that fact. As well, whatever good they do, is the same things others can do. Being homosexual adds nothing of value.

I was always taught at church that we are all unique individuals who each have a mission to fill that no one else can do the way we could do it. If you don't believe that then that is your own problem. If you start changing aspects of a person you change who they are...their life experience and what they will manifest to the universe.

Saying "they have contributed nothing but more wickedness onto the world" and then saying in the next sentence that they do "good" is contradictory. If they contribute good then clearly they contribute more than wickedness.