Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

[_Kevin Graham]

We could totally update this Op Ed to include more citations that are equally revolting. Nomad started a thread in Terrestrial trying to say that Will always used "circle jerk" to refer to a type internet debate, and didn't mean anything sexual by it. But I proved otherwise, pointing out the context in at least two overlooked citations whereby Will explicitly refers to "orgiastic" circle-jerks, as well as accusing the apostates of engaging in group anal sex ("buggerers"!)!

As far as I'm concerned, Jack should delete the C-word incident, and insert the two anal sex references, and Will's situation is even more bleak than before.

[_Nomad]

MsJack:

Hasa Diga Eebowai~ I think that it is unfortunate that William and his defenders and Eric spent so much time making hash over "the c-word incident."

You conveniently excluded Rollo Tomasi, the one who quoted the alleged offense, and who denied it ever happened.

You are a liar, MsJack.

To be honest, when I was composing the thread, I thought there were two places where William might try to deny having said what was said altogether:

(1) The c-word incident
(2) The single post that was made under the "WilliamSchryver" handle

Sure enough, William did initially deny both, only to later admit that the words posted by WilliamSchryver were in fact his. This happened when jon asked him about the words themselves rather than the handle they were posted under.

If I could do the entire thread again, I'm not sure I would include the "c-word incident" again---not because I think it didn't happen, but because of the immense distraction it was turned into on account of being the only place where William's original words weren't preserved for all to see. Then again, if he hadn't been distracted by "the c-word incident," I have to wonder if he would have blundered into admitting that WilliamSchryver was him.

I was wrong about Will being in Europe this week. It turns out that doesn’t happen until next week. I asked him by e-mail about this WilliamSchryver post and him acknowledging that it was his. His reply:

I do not know how it was made to appear that I acknowledged making that post, but I did not.

As I have done every single time this quote has been mentioned (this thread is not the first time—that quote has been around for at least two years), I did not post as “WilliamSchryver” (no space between the names). I did not make the post in question.

Whoever did do it is to be commended for mimicking my style quite well. But it was not I.

-WS

P.S. I regret to say that it is true what has been reported about the traitors Hauglid and Bokovoy. My only commentary on their actions is: “You lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas.”

William Schryver e-mail to Nomad 5/24/2011

I wouldn’t put anything past the people of this place. The Schryver Jihad has become a blood lust.

[_Kevin Graham]

You conveniently excluded Rollo Tomasi, the one who quoted the alleged offense, and who denied it ever happened.

This is a lie. He never denied it happened. He said it is quite possible that it did. He only said he doesn't recall seeing it. Others do, however.

I was wrong about Will being in Europe this week. It turns out that doesn’t happen until next week. I asked him by e-mail about this WilliamSchryver post and him acknowledging that it was his. His reply:

Now why on earth would Nomad point out that he was wrong about Will being in Europe? Who contested this in this thread? The reason he is bringing this up is obviously because Will knows he got busted. Nomad/Will lied about this. I pointed out that we know for a FACT that Silver Hammer is William, and that he is posting from the same node as usual. The one not based in Europe.

So now Will/Nomad has to change the story, claiming it was an innocent mistake to say this. Like Will doesn't know what continent he is currently on!

[_Buffalo]

I wouldn’t put anything past the people of this place. The Schryver Jihad has become a blood lust.

Referring to yourself in the third person is an odd affectation, Will. Don't you think?

[_Madison54]

Nomad,
I have actually read through ALL 58 pages of this thread (prior to this, I really had no idea who William Schryver was and I was an active Mormon for over 50 years).

One thing that has remained constant throughout this whole thread is that you've never ceased to disappoint me in making a complete fool of yourself with what you write and post on here.

I don't know you nor anyone else on this board, but you should just quit while you're ahead. Your last post really makes you look SO foolish! I can't imagine that anyone takes what you say seriously and I know I don't after reading this thread. You continually contradict yourself and make absolutely no sense, and usually can only resort to childish name calling as a defense for your ridiculous posts.

Do you really believe no one knows that YOU wrote that email to yourself and then copied and pasted it here? Wow!!

But at least while suffering through reading this entire thread, your posts offered some much needed comic relief every time I read them! Thanks for that!

[_Kishkumen]

I am still reeling over the news that Drs. Hauglid and Bokovoy are the parties responsible for tanking Will's Book of Abraham articles.

Wow.

[_Kevin Graham]

Who said Bokovoy was involved?

[Guest]

I am still reeling over the news that Drs. Hauglid and Bokovoy are the parties responsible for tanking Will's Book of Abraham articles.

Wow.

Poetic justice considering Will's threats against Bokovoy.

[_Kishkumen]

Who said Bokovoy was involved?

Maybe I am reading too much into Nomad's recent post in this thread, but it appears to me that Will has identified Hauglid and Bokovoy as "the traitors."

[_Kevin Graham]

I think that is probably Will including Bokovoy illicitly, as he has done in the past. But it could be true. Expect a formal denial from Bokovoy if it isn't.