KimberlyAnn wrote:As the mother of a teenage daughter, I cannot believe this girl's parents allow her out of the house. I am not a very strict parent, but it would be over my dead body that a thirty-three year old man would take advantage of my eighteen year old daughter.
The thirty-three year old needs to be warned to stay away from the teenage daughter. If he refuses, surely the girl has a father or some older brothers who could knock some sense into the idiot if necessary. He might think more clearly sans a few teeth and a broken nose.
The parents should also investigate into the possibility that the 33 year old might have given their underage daughter alcohol. If they find any proof of it, they can have him arrested and he'll also lose his license to serve liquor, making further employment as a bartender impossible.
Even if he's not dissuaded by the ass-kicking and lack of employment, the eighteen year old girl will surely lose interest in him. No young girl in her right mind wants a broke loser with missing teeth.
KA
My sentiments exactly. This is pretty much what my friend heard from me - along with the threat of a civil suit against the city that currently employs him. I think that would put a hammering pressure on him from all directions.
Now, if this were still the Wild West (Nauvoo), Dark Helmet's 2 bit gangbanger approach would certainly be a welcome and most civil option.
Tonight the parents learned this older boy is actually a man of 33. Their daughter lives at home, just turned 18 and is graduating high school this month.
When did she turn 18? Be specific if you can.
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When I was in high school a girl in my class got pregnant (on purpose) and married to a 36 year old man. Her mother gave permission. I wondered what the hell was wrong with the man. They were not Mormon.
Seriously, I do wonder if there is something wrong with the man that he chooses to be with an 18 year old when he is in his 30's. I wonder if not getting married stunts his maturity or something so he still thinks he is a teen/college age person.
I think, though, that a 5 year difference is pretty normal. Many couples I know have that. The woman was usually 18-20 when she married the 23-25 year old returned missionary. Seems common to me.
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Inc hasn't had a chance to say when the girl turned 18. He said "just turned 18" so...something along the lines of kicking ass as suggested above.
Get her cell phone and examine it for any saved text messages. If it appears that a text exchange took place that indicates a physical relationship prior to her turning 18, I would ring up Mr. 33 year-old cradle robber to let him know that I have all the evidence I need to nail his pathetic cradle-robbing ass.
Would that work?
Of course it could backfire and drive the daughter further away.
Just a thought! :-)
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You gotta ignore the instinct to physically confront the 33 year old guy, any sort of action aimed at that guy is probably going to send her running to him first chance she gets. I’d focus on the daughter, being open and very frank about sex and telling her to be very careful. The more you try to force a teen to do something, the more they like to push back, in my experience.
As odd as it sounds, I know the older guy’s mindset (I’m just guessing here), a lot of my old military buddies had it. Guys now-a-days in their late 20s and early 30s think the girls they date have to be young and perky, and the 18 to 20 age group are often the targets.
Girls that age tend to be stupid (no offense intended to anyone) and if they like a guy, will probably believe anything he tells her. Their inexperience with relationships allows them to fall for stupid games, where a guy will lavish attention and then take it away and do something to make her jealous and pursue him.
Another advantage for these creeps is that girls tend to dig older guys. Having a car and a place of your own with spending cash is something that attracts girls of that age, probably makes them feel more “adult” that they are dating someone who is totally independent. I’m willing to bet this dude has some stupid Chinese tattoos that makes him look “deep” to the naïve and can play some songs on the guitar.
I know it sucks but, it’s her life now and it’s her choice to date who she wants. That puts the parents between a rock and a hard place.
I have no clue how to communicate with teenage girls. I don't know if it's even possible.
Even if confronting the 33 year old guy would keep the girl away, I think it's stupid to do something illegal. At least the foolish 18 year old girl is staying within the law despite being naïve.
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KimberlyAnn wrote:As the mother of a teenage daughter, I cannot believe this girl's parents allow her out of the house. I am not a very strict parent, but it would be over my dead body that a thirty-three year old man would take advantage of my eighteen year old daughter.
The thirty-three year old needs to be warned to stay away from the teenage daughter. If he refuses, surely the girl has a father or some older brothers who could knock some sense into the idiot if necessary. He might think more clearly sans a few teeth and a broken nose.
The parents should also investigate into the possibility that the 33 year old might have given their underage daughter alcohol. If they find any proof of it, they can have him arrested and he'll also lose his license to serve liquor, making further employment as a bartender impossible.
Even if he's not dissuaded by the ass-kicking and lack of employment, the eighteen year old girl will surely lose interest in him. No young girl in her right mind wants a broke loser with missing teeth.
KA
My sentiments exactly. This is pretty much what my friend heard from me - along with the threat of a civil suit against the city that currently employs him. I think that would put a hammering pressure on him from all directions.
Now, if this were still the Wild West (Nauvoo), Dark Helmet's 2 bit gangbanger approach would certainly be a welcome and most civil option.
I agree with the emotions here, but not actually going through with how we feel. It usually does not go well, and has the opposite effect. I to agree with Stak.
Rambo wrote: I also remember getting told before I went on my mission to take a look at the girls that are 12-15 years old in the ward because you may be dating these girls when you get back some day.
WTF? A mission is only 2 years. That 12 year old girl will only be 14 when the missionary comes home as a 21 year old. What sick bastards are checking out 12-14 year old girls? My daughter is only 7, but in a few years the adult men in the ward will be checking her out. That's sick.
Well it was more like this. After the missionary has been home for a couple of years then they may start to date girls that were only 12 while he was on a mission. I dated a girl once when I was 25 and she was 18. Before the mission she would have been 12 and I would have been 19. The relationship did not last long because we really didn't have much to relate to.
Rambo wrote: Well it was more like this. After the missionary has been home for a couple of years then they may start to date girls that were only 12 while he was on a mission. I dated a girl once when I was 25 and she was 18. Before the mission she would have been 12 and I would have been 19. The relationship did not last long because we really didn't have much to relate to.
Yeah, it might work out that way, it's just the premeditation of saying "take a look at that 12 year old" that is a little weird. I'm sure Donald Trump didn't look at a toddler back in the 70s and think to himself, "I might marry her some day."
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