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i agree with obiwan, being gay does not make that persons contributions more meaningful.
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"Anyway.... Right is right and wrong is wrong."
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Pure BS, not even supported by l-dsinc teachings.
Murder in the courst of a burglary to get a record a people needed so they would not 'dwindle in unbelief' - - - and they all fell away anyhow.
No abortion - - - BUT...
Joethecoxman even used situational ethics to get into the pants of other mens wives and young girls.
moronicpriesthood types have no business trying to tell anyone about right and wrong because they don't know what it is.
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Pure BS, not even supported by l-dsinc teachings.
Murder in the courst of a burglary to get a record a people needed so they would not 'dwindle in unbelief' - - - and they all fell away anyhow.
No abortion - - - BUT...
Joethecoxman even used situational ethics to get into the pants of other mens wives and young girls.
moronicpriesthood types have no business trying to tell anyone about right and wrong because they don't know what it is.
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Bow your head and mutter, what in hell am I doing here?
infaymos wrote: "Peterson is the defacto king ping of the Mormon Apologetic world."
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jon wrote:Obiwan wrote:
There WERE in fact whites who were both denied the priesthood AND had it removed because of African decent...I'm not making crap up!!!
Provide supporting references that those statements are true...
I've read every book that exists on the African Lineage & the Priesthood issue, as well as the relevant surrounding history's. If you want to know said historical citations, read those materials for yourself. Sorry, but I don't have them in front of me (in some library somewhere), I'm just quoting to you history I've read for myself. I'm not making it up.
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just me wrote:I was always taught at church that we are all unique individuals who each have a mission to fill that no one else can do the way we could do it. If you don't believe that then that is your own problem.
Never said I don't believe this. But, that is not really the same as what you originally said. Being homosexual is not fulfilling some divine purpose that only a homosexual and perform.
If you start changing aspects of a person you change who they are...their life experience and what they will manifest to the universe.
Huh? "Change" is the very nature of life. Who we are are the past, present, and future results of one moment to the next, every changing, experience, thought, choices.
Saying "they have contributed nothing but more wickedness onto the world" and then saying in the next sentence that they do "good" is contradictory. If they contribute good then clearly they contribute more than wickedness.
No, it's not contradictory.... A homosexual isn't simply a homosexual, they are human being with all kinds of aspects, talents, thoughts, skills, standards, etc. to them, like anyone else. In those respects, someone who happens to be a homosexual can do much good in the world. But such has nothing to do with their homosexuality, it's simply part of who they are. All people have good, bad, skills, etc. in them in various degrees, including homosexuals. A person could be near saint in every way, yet be a homosexual, or a murderer, or a child molester, or an adulterer, on and on. Thus, a person can in fact be good and evil. This is why I can be best friends with a gay man and his life partner..... Because I see the good in him, despite his weaknesses and sins.
So, as a homosexual they contribute wickedness, but as a human being the part of them that has nothing to do with homosexuality, they can contribute good also.
You made the claim that homosexuals do things "know-one" else can do.... That however is an untenable claim. Others do all the same things homosexuals do, except sleep with the same sex. I don't see what "value" sleeping with the same sex contributes to the world, do you? Thus, it would be best if you thought before you spoke.
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You made the claim that homosexuals do things "know-one" else can do.... That however is an untenable claim. Others do all the same things homosexuals do, except sleep with the same sex. I don't see what "value" sleeping with the same sex contributes to the world, do you? Thus, it would be best if you thought before you spoke.
You are not comprehending my comments. I will make myself as clear as I can and be done with this thread. I never used the term "know-one" so I am not sure why you even have that there in quotes.
I said homosexuals as INDIVIDUALS have contributed things nobody else could. This is a true statement. The same can be said for every single INDIVIDUAL that has ever lived. I didn't say they contributed BETTER or MORE, just that as INDIVIDUALS they have made unique contributions that would be lost if they had not existed. Just as if you did not exist whatever contributions you have made would be lost.
Let me give an example. If Elton John was not homosexual his contribution to the field of music would not exist in its current form. Now, you might say "who cares, no big deal." That would be fine. However, if you then begin to take away every single contribution made by a person who was homosexual our world would lose something. It would be different than it is today. We would lose a great deal of poetry, music, artwork, literature, dance, films, religious and philisophical concepts, inventions, world leaders, etc, etc, etc.
We are all a sum of our parts. Take away any of the parts and we are different. Yes, we change throughout our lives. That is part of our being...how we manifest in the universe. Being gay or straight goes far deeper than who we choose to sleep with. It is a part of our personality and how our brain and chemistry operate.
Unlike you I do believe that sex has value. Damn, it is fun, cheap and good for your health. Beyond that LOVE is very valuable to most people. Sex can be a beautiful expression of love.
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BFF,
You do realize that you are addressing a person who thinks there are studies taking two children who are "exactly alike", put them in different types of schools and they come out as two different people?
Just sayin'
You do realize that you are addressing a person who thinks there are studies taking two children who are "exactly alike", put them in different types of schools and they come out as two different people?
Just sayin'
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Jersey Girl wrote:BFF,
You do realize that you are addressing a person who thinks there are studies taking two children who are "exactly alike", put them in different types of schools and they come out as two different people?
Just sayin'
It's really, really late. I should be sleeping. That is my story and I'm sticking with it. I hope you had a good day. :)
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden
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just me wrote:Jersey Girl wrote:BFF,
You do realize that you are addressing a person who thinks there are studies taking two children who are "exactly alike", put them in different types of schools and they come out as two different people?
Just sayin'
It's really, really late. I should be sleeping. That is my story and I'm sticking with it. I hope you had a good day. :)
That sounds plausible!
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just me wrote:Jersey Girl wrote:BFF,
You do realize that you are addressing a person who thinks there are studies taking two children who are "exactly alike", put them in different types of schools and they come out as two different people?
Just sayin'
It's really, really late. I should be sleeping. That is my story and I'm sticking with it. I hope you had a good day. :)
That sounds plausible!
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[quote="Obiwan] I'm not making it up.[/quote]
Prove that you're not by providing references
p.s. referring to some nameless history book in a library that you read some time ago isn't a reference.
Prove that you're not by providing references
p.s. referring to some nameless history book in a library that you read some time ago isn't a reference.
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Morality is doing what is right, regardless of what you are told.
Religion is doing what you are told, regardless of what is right.