Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

[_thews]

Belmont should just Google "Belmont+liar" and he will eventually find a thread in which I exhibited the twin statements from him to the effect that:

(a) he has all our IP addresses.

(b) he does not have all our IP addresses.

I thought that those two statements side by side told us something about the person that posted them.

And here we see the ego of Chap, who has no doubt that he is perfect.

For when a typo is made, leaving out the word access, Chap, like the elephant, never forgets.

He uses this single typo as, what he views, a large stick with which to relentlessly beat the offender.

But his hate and anger will consume him, you see, as Chap ceases to be tender.

Like Atlas bearing the weight of the world, Chap bears the weight of his massive ego.

It will crush him.

I never did like grapes all that much.

[_Chap]

I am interested by this news, though not overly concerned by it. Is this due to a loophole in the board software, or is it an inevitable feature of a message board of this kind?

Mods (and in particular Dr Shades) - were you aware of this?

Yet when I said the very same thing, you flipped. Why is that, Chap?

Belmont should just Google "Belmont+liar" and he will eventually find a thread in which I exhibited the twin statements from him to the effect that:

(a) he has all our IP addresses.

(b) he does not have all our IP addresses.

I thought that those two statements side by side told us something about the person that posted them.

And here we see the ego of Chap, who has no doubt that he is perfect.

For when a typo is made, leaving out the word access, Chap, like the elephant, never forgets.

He uses this single typo as, what he views, a large stick with which to relentlessly beat the offender.

But his hate and anger will consume him, you see, as Chap ceases to be tender.

Like Atlas bearing the weight of the world, Chap bears the weight of his massive ego.

It will crush him.

I thought this looked odd, until I realized that it was an attempt at verse.

I cannot understand what Belmont is up to. The thread on which his lie was exposed can be seen here, starting with the post in which I drew attention to his self contradiction:

viewtopic.php?p=382052#p382052

The key statements by Belmont were:

And, by the way, as a techie, I have your IP address, along with everyone else's here. I could easily use it to determine who each of you are in real life -- but will I? No. Because I am honorable and would never stoop to the level you bring yourself to.

I do not have everyone's IP addresses, I simply indicated that I have the ability to get them, as does everyone else.

Mr Stakhanovite summed up the obvious reaction quite well in a one-word post:

Liar.

This issue has been referred to several times since then, and Belmont has attempted various says of extricating himself without admitting that one or other statement was a lie. His first one, on the original thread was bizarre:

You aren't thinking outside the box, Chap. I'm talking about social engineering here.

Now he finally thinks up the typo defense. It is unfortunately now much too late to be convincing. Had this claim been true, he would have made it straight away, not six months later after the issue had already come up several times.

I don't know why Belmont thinks he will eventually be permitted to deny that he told a lie and get away with it. But he is welcome to keep trying. In his place I would just shut up and hope that everybody would forget about it. Why on earth does he keep raking it up again?

[_consiglieri]

Like Atlas bearing the weight of the world, Chap bears the weight of his massive ego.

Umm, I think Atlas supported the heavens . . .



All the Best!

--Consiglieri

[_the narrator]

MsJack:

Hasa Diga Eebowai~ I think that it is unfortunate that William and his defenders and Eric spent so much time making hash over "the c-word incident."

You conveniently excluded Rollo Tomasi, the one who quoted the alleged offense, and who denied it ever happened.

You are a liar, MsJack.

To be honest, when I was composing the thread, I thought there were two places where William might try to deny having said what was said altogether:

(1) The c-word incident
(2) The single post that was made under the "WilliamSchryver" handle

Sure enough, William did initially deny both, only to later admit that the words posted by WilliamSchryver were in fact his. This happened when jon asked him about the words themselves rather than the handle they were posted under.

If I could do the entire thread again, I'm not sure I would include the "c-word incident" again---not because I think it didn't happen, but because of the immense distraction it was turned into on account of being the only place where William's original words weren't preserved for all to see. Then again, if he hadn't been distracted by "the c-word incident," I have to wonder if he would have blundered into admitting that WilliamSchryver was him.

I was wrong about Will being in Europe this week. It turns out that doesn’t happen until next week. I asked him by e-mail about this WilliamSchryver post and him acknowledging that it was his. His reply:

I do not know how it was made to appear that I acknowledged making that post, but I did not.

As I have done every single time this quote has been mentioned (this thread is not the first time—that quote has been around for at least two years), I did not post as “WilliamSchryver” (no space between the names). I did not make the post in question.

Whoever did do it is to be commended for mimicking my style quite well. But it was not I.

-WS

P.S. I regret to say that it is true what has been reported about the traitors Hauglid and Bokovoy. My only commentary on their actions is: “You lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas.”

William Schryver e-mail to Nomad 5/24/2011

I wouldn’t put anything past the people of this place. The Schryver Jihad has become a blood lust.

Hey Nomad, still waiting for your responses on that other thread.

[_Kishkumen]

Like Atlas bearing the weight of the world, Chap bears the weight of his massive ego.

Umm, I think Atlas supported the heavens . . .

Good catch, consig. You are correct.

[_Simon Belmont]

I thought this looked odd, until I realized that it was an attempt at verse.

There was, of course, nothing odd about it. It was no "attempt at verse" -- would you know verse if you had seen it?

I cannot understand what Belmont is up to. The thread on which his lie was exposed can be seen here, starting with the post in which I drew attention to his self contradiction:

Well, to puny minds and rotten hearts, most things are not understandable. Leaving out a word in a phrase here or there, a slight misspelling or typographical error... these things are common. I do not treat my writings on this message board with the care of a doctoral dissertation. Most of the denizens of it are not worth the time or effort. So, I and many others, may miss a word or two. Only the tiniest of intellects would think it fair to point it out time and again.

You aren't thinking outside the box, Chap. I'm talking about social engineering here.

And this phrase is key, you see, because I meant that I had access to IP address via social engineering. If, as you assert, I did mean that I already had your IP address, there would be no need for social engineering.

Now he finally thinks up the typo defense.

I did not "think up" anything. It is truth.

[_Chap]

I did not "think up" anything. It is truth.

Yup. I am sure that if any reasonable person reads Belmont's post, and then looks at mine which preceded it, that person will be bound to believe Belmont's account rather than mine. Of course the problem was a typo, not a lie, even if six months elapsed before he got round to telling us that was the reason for the strange inconsistency in his statements. He has lots more important things to do than post here, so we had to wait till he got round to it.

But this has me worried:

And here we see the ego of Chap, who has no doubt that he is perfect.

For when a typo is made, leaving out the word access, Chap, like the elephant, never forgets.

He uses this single typo as, what he views, a large stick with which to relentlessly beat the offender.

But his hate and anger will consume him, you see, as Chap ceases to be tender.

Like Atlas bearing the weight of the world, Chap bears the weight of his massive ego.

It will crush him.

I thought this looked odd, until I realized that it was an attempt at verse.

There was, of course, nothing odd about it. It was no "attempt at verse" -- would you know verse if you had seen it?

I mean, I am tangling with a man of real literary power here, as well as exemplary moral integrity. I should clearly keep my head down in future.

[Edited in a desperate attempt to improve my prose style to match up to the opposition I am facing.]

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[_Simon Belmont]

I mean, I am tangling with a man of real literary power here, as well as exemplary moral integrity. I should clearly keep my head down in [the] future.

If it were an attempt at verse, as you claim, there would be some meter to it.

Can you tell me what meter it is in?

You can't? Oh, that's because it wasn't mean to be verse, and doesn't resemble verse.

Thanks for playing.