33 Year old Man Courting an 18 Year old Girl

[_Yoda]

And Liz, if there is no evidence and no willing witness to a pre-teen relationship or booze guzzling (which there is and never will be one) your idea of threatening the man could backfire into a defamation suit or worse.


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????

Where did I mention anything about threatening him?

I have only made one other post on this thread, and it was merely asking questions about how they met, etc.

I also made a comment about how a 15 year old age difference can differ depending on when the dating occurs:

A 30 year old woman dating a 45 year old man = Acceptable....will likely have life experiences in common.

A barely 18 year old girl still in High School dating a 33 year old man = COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE....The difference in life experience is too great. The girl is basically still a child.

I agree with you, Inc., on your point that this man is a predator. He has no business dating this girl.

[_Inconceivable]

And Liz.. your idea of threatening the man could backfire into a defamation suit or worse.

????

Where did I mention anything about threatening him?

bock bock bock b'gock..
(something like that..)

This is technically a threat (since you're not a sitting judge passing judgement on the case):

I would ring up Mr. 33 year-old cradle robber to let him know that I have all the evidence I need to nail his pathetic cradle-robbing ass.
Would that work?

The smart money would be to give all evidence to local law enforcement before it get's tainted and let them work their magic. Why in the world would you want to tip off evil? I know you wouldn't do that, right?

Liz, I do think we're on the same page here.

[_Jersey Girl]

Inc,

I wrote that post...not Liz.

[_Bond James Bond]

Honestly, if you're going to go down this road, he needs to get hit hard enough that he has difficulty recalling how he "fell down" and hurt hisself. If you're not willing to ramp it to that level, you have little choice (for your family's sake) but to choose a different approach.

Problem is when the cops ask "do you have any enemies" and he says "well my girlfriend's family doesn't like me much." Immediate contacts with the victim are going to be checked out as a matter of course, as well as the questioning of the girlfriend might yield friction between boyfriend and family.

[_Inconceivable]

Inc,

I wrote that post...not Liz.

oop. sorry liz & Jersey Girl. It's just really hard to tell you apart when you use the same font.

[_Obiwan]

Sad that people think Joseph was a "predator"...... While I completely understand how they get that idea, such people sadly simply do not understand fully the history of each of the situations. I see the "evidences" they use to make such a conclusions, how they omit and take things out of context, and then try to claim those perversion of truth and fact as if such proves Joseph's immorality.

I've looked at each case myself, compared the anti-mormon claim, with the full facts of the history, and it's sad that people feel the need to falsely represent Joseph. :(

[_Inconceivable]

Sad that people think Joseph was a "predator"...... While I completely understand how they get that idea, such people sadly simply do not understand fully the history of each of the situations. I see the "evidences" they use to make such a conclusions, how they omit and take things out of context, and then try to claim those perversion of truth and fact as if such proves Joseph's immorality.

I've looked at each case myself, compared the anti-mormon claim, with the full facts of the history, and it's sad that people feel the need to falsely represent Joseph. :(

For god's sakes don't move. You're hurt. I'll call you a waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaambulance.

[_Polygamy-Porter]

Hugh Nibley was 36 when he wed his 21 year old bride.

Three years older than this 18 year old girl, but the same age difference.

Is this 33 year guy a douche bag? What kind of person is he?

[_jon]

Sad that people think Joseph was a "predator"...... While I completely understand how they get that idea, such people sadly simply do not understand fully the history of each of the situations. I see the "evidences" they use to make such a conclusions, how they omit and take things out of context, and then try to claim those perversion of truth and fact as if such proves Joseph's immorality.

I've looked at each case myself, compared the anti-mormon claim, with the full facts of the history, and it's sad that people feel the need to falsely represent Joseph. :(

You're gonna have to walk me through your conclusions with specific reference to Helen Mar Kimball...

[_Spurven Ten Sing]

I couldn't imagine having a relationship with an 18 YO. Nothing to talk about, nothing to say, odd generational gap. Even the 4 years between me and the wife calls for gentle mocking between us.

That being said, this is where I piss everyone off.

This girl is an adult. Yes, it's true. She isn't a child, she doesn't need to be protected or sheltered. She isn't some pig tailed red riding hood flirting with a wolf. She is all grown up now and can make her own dumb stupid decisions.

We all got that chance. I did, You did. It's how we learn. She is doing something that certainly sounds pretty foolish, but it is her decision. Sure, call manipulation or criminal behavior, but there is a solid fact to face here.

If the girl chooses the choice is made. Are the parents insecure that they did not raise her right? Do they suppose that NOW they can insist on being protective parents?

Here is another uncomfortable fact. Our species is not programed to really distinguish between ages. In fact, the idea of marrying within an age range is a quaint Western idea that holds no water when it comes to relationships and love. Zero. Countless couples have been very happy in similar situations. There is nothing objectively morally wrong with a 33 yo hitting that with an 18 yo. Nada.

Well, that doesn't mean you have to like it or think it's a good idea. It sounds like bad one alright. But what's all this stuff about threatening the man with violence? Do you really think that would help? Do you really think that beating another human being up is LESS of a sin/crime than a grown woman choosing to go with a 33 yo man? Maybe if that's the case you should just beat the girl. She is, after all the grown up here.

Or are we pretending that she a child? That's just odd. When does she grow up enough to make bad choices? 19? 21? 30? Never?

That being said, I don't intend my daughter to EVER date or hook up with any males or females. Period. That emotion is there, but deeper in my human brain I understand that these feeling are my issue and not hers. She will be free to mess up her life like we all are soon enough. That is, if I'm lucky.

Well think about it. Nothing wrong with the revulsion, but you should understand them.