Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

[Guest]

As for the reaction of people like Droopy and Wade, all I can say is that it is a testament to how much hatred we have provoked in some people.

It is not hatred, in any sense, but deep, unflinching, existential pity that drives much of what we do.

The bombastic hypocrisy of the term "hate" as applied to the feelings of apologists regarding critics of the church of the kind who congregate here is noted.

[_Droopy]

Also he calls Nomad "Simon." The real Droopy would never do that.

There, I fixed it. Happy?[/quote]

Actually, very. : )

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[_Doctor Scratch]

Scratch has, on a few occasions, created quotations from me that did not in fact exist and then used them in block quotes as if I had made the statements within.

Where have I done this? Either cite evidence for your claim or withdraw the charge.

[_Yoda]

The fact is there have been quite a few LDS apologists who have expressed concern with Will's behavior.

Then let's have the names and the specific criticisms, right here, and right now.

It seems, for some reason, quite odd to me that someone like David Bokovoy (who has strong philosophical differences with Will on an issue wholly disconnected from Book of Abraham origin theory to the point, as witnessed long ago on the "United Firm" thread, of taking criticism of his views in a very personal way) who is a staunch defender and supporter of the Church, would contact a foam flecked, red faced critic of the Church like Kevin Graham, who is, without doubt, one of the most viscous, rabid, obnoxious, intemperate, and poorly educated critics of the Church since Loftes Tryk.

Why would David Bokovoy seek out an emotionally and psychologically unstable individual such as Kevin Graham, and not talk to John Gee, or Royal Skousen, or someone of that caliber?

It just doesn't seem...well, to all hang together very well.

I don't think it would be unusual at all for David to communicate with Kevin. Have you read any of David and Kevin's debates and exchanges? In spite of their differences, they are in real life friends.

[_Kishkumen]

I don't think it would be unusual at all for David to communicate with Kevin. Have you read any of David and Kevin's debates and exchanges? In spite of their differences, they are in real life friends.

I guess David is just a better judge of character than Droopy. I would say I am surprised, but look who Droopy is defending here.

[_Droopy]

Scratch has, on a few occasions, created quotations from me that did not in fact exist and then used them in block quotes as if I had made the statements within.

Where have I done this? Either cite evidence for your claim or withdraw the charge.

Its been years since you dood it, but you dood it.

But no need to feel bad about that, as this is only the tip of the iceberg relative to your behavior here since this board crawled out of the promordial soup and grew legs.

[_Droopy]

I don't think it would be unusual at all for David to communicate with Kevin. Have you read any of David and Kevin's debates and exchanges? In spite of their differences, they are in real life friends.

I guess David is just a better judge of character than Droopy. I would say I am surprised, but look who Droopy is defending here.

If anyone wants confirmation of Red Kevin's psychology and attitude, they have several years of posts here as exhibit 'A'.

[_Doctor Scratch]

Its been years since you dood it, but you dood it.

Where, Droopy? I suggest that you go and find it, or else withdraw the charge. Your latest meltdown here on the board happened in part because you apparently "forgot" some incredibly appalling things that you said in the chatroom. So, is this how you're going to react in the wake of all that?

Your recollection has been challenged, Droopy. Either put up or shut up.

But no need to feel bad about that

Feel bad about what? You have zero evidence.

[_Kishkumen]

If anyone wants confirmation of Red Kevin's psychology and attitude, they have several years of posts here as exhibit 'A'.

Droopy, I'm not sure that one of us here has any room to talk about psychology and attitude. We're quite a collection of misfits, myself included. I happen to like Kevin very much and consider him a friend. I am also happy to have you around, even though I find many of your views objectionable.

[_Droopy]

Where, Droopy?

I have no idea, I just remember you block quoting me, on several occasions, in which the quoted text attributed to me was made up.

I suggest that you go and find it, or else withdraw the charge.

I won't withdraw the charge because its exactly what I remember.

Your latest meltdown here on the board happened in part because you apparently "forgot" some incredibly appalling things that you said in the chatroom. So, is this how you're going to react in the wake of all that?

You weren't in that chat, and so have no idea what you're talking about. I did, indeed, forgot the exact language I used, but could easily call Delusion on the carpet for the simple reason that, whatever I did say, and however he chose to interpret it, the overall views he ascribed to me are not views that I hold.

Your recollection has been challenged, Droopy. Either put up or shut up.

Really, to have a pathological liar, shameless character assassin and ad hominem conspiracy theorist react with such moral outrage at being accused of making up text in other people's names causes my jaw to drop.

As you have no character to defend Scratch, from whence the reaction?

Feel bad about what? You have zero evidence.

But as we have seen here, over and over again, evidence has rarely been the criteria by which to judge the accuracy of claims made about other individuals, and you, yourself, have been preeminent among those for whom it has never gotten on the way of a good defamation (just ask DCP, who could go on for days on end about your "malevolent stalker" days).