Oh, the good the church is capable of!

[_Simon Belmont]

Um...sure...and i paid for the digging of at least one well...where has your "tithing" gone?....oh, that's right, you have no idea...I actually went to ghana 2 years ago and met with several people that were desperate for assistance...i have personally bought the materials for 3 houses and have pictures of the well that i paid for in a small town outside the main city...what have you done? Not only that, i have paid for the education of at least 3 Ghanians who had no other opportunities beyond what my family has provided...that is just in africa...

I am not in a charity contest with you, you prideful dolt. I pay 10% of my income to the Church which helped, helps, and will continue to help millions of people around the world -- especially when natural disasters occur.

[_Simon Belmont]

I don't ever recall Christ or his followers suggesting that building up treasures before feeding the poor and clothing the naked as the correct way.

Well, that's what He revealed to the modern church.

But I would guess that anyone who truly believes and follows the LDS religion has to believe in their mind that their religion is doing the right thing based upon revelation from God. It's ashamed then they can not recognize how unChristlike these selfish endeavors are.

I don't recall Christ teaching that you should go on an anti-Mormon message board and attack the LDS Church.

[_Wisdom Seeker]

New rules for a new modern church?

Free Agency!

[_Joseph]

Wisdom Seeker wrote:
I don't ever recall Christ or his followers suggesting that building up treasures before feeding the poor and clothing the naked as the correct way.

simnoe belmnot wrote:
Well, that's what He revealed to the modern church.
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And now we see the truth of simone - someone who does not really believe l-dsinc and its teachings but just can't let go for some reason. Does not agree with what they do but has a pathological need to defend stupidity, lies and greed.

Come on smion, admit that you know the whole thing is crap but just won't leave it.

[_Everybody Wang Chung]

Sure the Church could do a much better job of using its resources to help the poor. However, the exact same could be said for almost any other Christian Church or religion. I guess in the end, I just don't care how a religion chooses to use its resources as long as I can continue to be entertained like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7L1cVINGpY

[_1 Iron]

Again, if the Mormon church could be a little more positive, dynamic, and show its members that it's actually doing something that Christ Himself would do I think that would go a long way toward retention. Right now it's fighting a war of attrition that I'm not sure it's going to successfully abate through simple child birth ratios. It's going to have to change its approach to people for long-term viability.

V/R
Dr. Cam

Odd as it may sound to you, I found this post valuable Dr. Cam.

Sitting in priesthood meeting a few months ago, the group leader asked what activities we thought would be of most value to help foster ward unity and what we could do to help this, overall. Some prepared answers they had already suggested included a few new activities and improvements to the traditional ward activities, improved home teaching, the usual answers.

A youngish member of the group raised his hand and asked, "Why don't we do more service projects?" I thought, "Brilliant question, and the perfect answer to the question at hand."

Sadly, even thought a number of us spoke up in support of this suggestion the result was it was added to a list. I don't have a lot of faith in lists.

While I appreciate the church as the vehicle to help bring us back to Christ, I suspect that there is more we all could do at all levels to improve.

[_schreech]

I am not in a charity contest with you, you prideful dolt. I pay 10% of my income to the Church which helped, helps, and will continue to help millions of people around the world -- especially when natural disasters occur.

prove it...oh, that's right, you have no idea where your momo dues actually go...pathetic, especially considering I actually just sponsored someone who is going to japan to help with the cleanup...where have your miniscule dues gone?...don't worry, the brighamite Mormon church has your best interest in mind...

[_jon]

I am not in a charity contest with you, you prideful dolt. I pay 10% of my income to the Church which helped, helps, and will continue to help millions of people around the world -- especially when natural disasters occur.

Sadly, that isn't where your 10% goes, nor it's proceeds gained from investing it.
Humanitarian aid is funded by additional contributions from the members.

From LDS.Org
Humanitarian projects are funded by donations from Church members and others. One-hundred percent of these donations go directly to help the poor and needy. In-kind material assistance is provided through items donated by Church members and others.

The bit in bold gives the game away - that it is purely non-tithing contributions.
Simon, your tithing does not contribute to humanitarian aid, not a single cent of it.
I don't say that to have a go at you - but to ensure you fully understand that you are not contributing to the Churches humanitarian 'spend' unless you make additional payments above and beyond the 10% tithe.

Simon - here is where your money goes:
'An aerial view shows the progress on the City Creek project in downtown Salt Lake City Thursday, May 26, 2011. Construction on the estimated $1.5 billion (nearly twenty times the amount that was donated by members seperately to tithing which was passed on by the Church for humanitarian aid) development is expected to be finished by March 22, 2012. When completed, City Creek Center will feature an estimated 800,000 square feet of shopping and dining space. The 23-acre development will include a mix of residences, retail and office space'

From Deseret News 26th May 2011

[_Simon Belmont]

prove it...oh, that's right, you have no idea where your momo dues actually go...pathetic, especially considering I actually just sponsored someone who is going to japan to help with the cleanup...where have your miniscule dues gone?...don't worry, the brighamite Mormon church has your best interest in mind...

I pay 10% of my income to one of the best charities in the world. That is more than enough for me. I don't care who you "sponsor" or how many holes you think you've dug in Africa (how much does it cost to dig a hole anyway, $5.00?).

[Guest]

I pay 10% of my income to one of the best charities in the world. That is more than enough for me. I don't care who you "sponsor" or how many holes you think you've dug in Africa (how much does it cost to dig a hole anyway, $5.00?).

Erm...No, you don't...

http://charity.lovetoknow.com/Top_100_Charities
http://www.forbes.com/lists/results.jht ... ssKeyword=