You haven't noticed that in fact he never left, and had already made several new posts before you posted this? Or has he done this act so often before that it no longer seems odd - just some kind of nervous tic?
Then, of course, there is the deep seated neurosis and marked psychological and affectual disorders that both produce and are the product of apostasy from the restored gospel and rebellion against God.
Everyone who ever left the Church, Chap, wanted out for reasons settled deep within the core of their being, and it never has had or ever will have anything to do with the intellect, or scholarship, or critical thought per se.
It's all about the nature of the soil in which the seed is sown.
Taken with the preceding rapid "Goodbye for ever"/"Hi again everybody!" act, this seems to amount to something like "I may be a bit nuts, but you are all going to hell in a handcart".
I think I would prefer to take spiritual guidance (assuming I am looking for any) from someone who begins by demonstrating some kind of basic consistency between words and actions. Maybe I'm just funny that way?
Zadok: I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis. Maksutov: That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
I think I would prefer to take spiritual guidance (assuming I am looking for any) from someone who begins by demonstrating some kind of basic consistency between words and actions. Maybe I'm just funny that way?
And when have my words and actions not been consistent? You know utterly nothing regarding how I live my life, so upon what basis do you make your resounding moral judgment?
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
I think I would prefer to take spiritual guidance (assuming I am looking for any) from someone who begins by demonstrating some kind of basic consistency between words and actions. Maybe I'm just funny that way?
And when have my words and actions not been consistent? You know utterly nothing regarding how I live my life, so upon what basis do you make your resounding moral judgment?
I can only judge you by the words and actions you choose to present here. I think that is likewise the only kind of basis you have to judge me, something which you apparently feel quite free to do.
Your actions in continuing to post here after telling us very emphatically only a few hours previously that you were leaving for good are not consistent with your words, are they?
Zadok: I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis. Maksutov: That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
Zadok: I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis. Maksutov: That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
Yes, that's exactly what I meant. Thanks for reminding me.
Ciao.
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
Droopy's behaviour is pretty childish in an attention seeking way (even for a self confessed 52 year old Mormon). Don't announce to the board that your leaving in the style of a 'sniff, sob, huff' drama queen.
We don't need to know
'Church pictures are not always accurate' (The Nehor May 4th 2011)
Morality is doing what is right, regardless of what you are told. Religion is doing what you are told, regardless of what is right.
If you feel that MDB is a psychologically unhealthy place for you at the moment, then, by all means, you should take a break.
I will say that, in spite of our differences on issues, I consider you my friend, and I admire what you have accomplished and struggled through. It is not easy to admit to, and conquer alcohol addiction. It is not easy to provide 24 hour care to a spouse with health problems.
You are, at the core, a loving husband and father, and I respect that.
We'll always leave the door open for you.
Liz
I did not know this about Droopy.
Droopy,
Best of luck, I understand your motives and I believe you set out to help others even if the overall perception is that it may not have worked. Sounds like you have a great heart.