Boy, was I wrong

[_Chap]

<SNIP ramblings about the Sorrows of Young Schryver and how everyone else is just as bad anyway>

Evidently someone at the Maxwell Institute saw the collection of Schryver Specials, and funnily enough, got the idea that they didn't want someone who wrote that kind of stuff around their institute.

That is pure conjecture on your part. There is reason to believe you are incorrect.

Really? You think no-one at the Maxwell Institute saw the collection of Schryver Specials? They booted him for some other reason? Or that they did see it, and thought it was just the kind of stuff they wanted to be associated with? Or that they became aware of it by revelation from the Spirit, without actually seeing it Or what?

The consequences are entirely Schryver's responsibility - if he didn't want people to be offended why keep posting offensive material?

Oh, I see - it was only meant to offend anti-Mormons? So the recipients of Schryver's billets-doux should have carefully hidden them from the eyes of anybody else, and if they discuss them in public they are no better than a lynch mob? I get it.

Sure, you get it. LOL The phrase, "I get it," could be the motto for most all lynch mobs.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

I am trying to find something in the bolded bit that can be argued with, but it just seems to be a kind of pseudo-response designed to give a casual reader the impression that some kind of point has been scored, although in reality nothing has been said.

[_MsJack]

I'm very sorry to see that David Bokovoy's name keeps on being dragged into this. His only involvement in my "Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny" thread were my use of two brief quotes from comments that he had posted publicly on our forums in which he expressed disapproval of William Schryver's behavior.

I'd like to state for the record that I have never engaged in a private conversation with David Bokovoy about anything, let alone a private conversation about anything pertaining to William Schryver, and have no knowledge that he was involved in any kind of "behind-the-scenes" campaign against William. Needless to say, as far as my thread is concerned, he was 100% uninvolved.

I admire David Bokovoy for his intellect, his thoughtfulness, and his persistent gentleness. I consider him to be one of the classiest individuals I have ever witnessed on these forums, and feel that we all have a lot to learn from him.

But my admiration of him has always been from afar.

[_wenglund]

Only one of many, many posts. It changes nothing.

It may not change your closed mind. But, it may have a perspective-altering impact on the reasonably open-minded.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_Kevin Graham]

Again, if this were really about stopping harassment and improving discourse here at the cesspool, all offenders would have been duly chastened, no threats would have been made, and the matter would have gone no further than this board.

Non sequitur. So because folks at NAMI picked up on the complaints of harassment, this to your mind is proof that the intentions of MsJack go well beyond what she stated? Yeah, just keep illustrating why you're an idiot wade. As Bokovoy just said, some LDS scholars regularly lurk here and they were disgusted by Will's behavior. All MsJack did was provide a compiled list of Schryver citations, and that list could be doubled now that the matter has been dragged out even further. LDS scholars came across it and decided they didn't want Schryver's name connected with the NAMI.

To say this is proof that MsJack had an ulterior motive beyond what she stated, is absurd.

All you ever do is keep reasserting your illicit conclusions without any evidence whatsoever, while dismissing everyone who disagrees with you as "closed-minded."

Right Wade. Whatever helps you sleep better at night. Just remember, that huge list of "closed-minded" folks includes a whole bunch of LDS scholars who don't hide behind pseudonyms. In fact, you appear to be the only supporter of William Schryver who is stupid enough to use his real name! Now what are the chances that it is you, and you alone who is "open-minded" while the rest of the world is "closed-minded"?

[_Some Schmo]

Do you think peeing in a cesspool is a serious offense?

Of course he doesn't. He's one of the largest contributors of piss and crap on this forum. The very act of complaining about a cesspool is his latest golden shower.

It never ceases to amaze me that people like Wade love to complain about the things he does most. What are ya gonna do?

[_wenglund]

Really? You think no-one at the Maxwell Institute saw the collection of Schryver Specials?

I have no idea what anyone at the MI may or may not have been privy to.

They booted him for some other reason?

I wasn't party to the decision--in large part because it was none of my business, so I can't really say for sure one way or the other. I have reason to believe, though, that the dismissal had to do with certain threats made to the Institute related to what Will may or may not have written years ago.

<delete remainder of clueless, self-serving musings>

Yawn.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_Buffalo]

Only one of many, many posts. It changes nothing.

It may not change your closed mind. But, it may have a perspective-altering impact on the reasonably open-minded.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

If it were a court of law, it would one charge only of dozens.

[_Kevin Graham]

I have no idea what anyone at the MI may or may not have been privy to.

Funny how the only guy with an "open mind" is the only guy who keeps missing out on these pesky little facts. We know now, thanks to Bokovoy, what NAMI has been privy to. They read this forum, and so far you're doing a sloppy job of changing their mind.

I guess they're all "closed." That must be it.

[_Buffalo]

You compared sexual harassment to peeing in a cesspool....

I made not mention of sexual harassment. Please don't project your mob mentality onto me.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

You were responding to the topic of sexual harassment. Try to keep up.

Most people here have said that Will's paper should be published. They simply wanted him to stop harassing women. Is that too much to ask?

This is akin to were a small, backwoods town to gang up on one of its residents, and incessantly harangue him for peeing a couple of times in the local cesspool, making threats that lead to the dismissal of his article in the county paper, and went on to claim that they wanted the article published, but only wanted him to stop peeing where he wasn't supposed to, and then inquiring if that asking too much?

Again, if this were really about stopping harassment and improving discourse here at the cesspool, all offenders would have been duly chastened, no threats would have been made, and the matter would have gone no further than this board.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_Chap]

I have reason to believe, though, that the dismissal had to do with certain threats made to the Institute related to what Will may or may not have written years ago.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Well, we know what Will did write, because MsJack kindly collected the smellier specimens in her OP for anyone to read. And they were quite enough to make any decent man hold his nose. So we don't have to speculate about what he may not have written, do we?

How you can imagine that once the people at the Maxwell Institute, having read through Schryver's malodorous posts, would need to be 'threatened' to make them want to sever connection with him is hard to imagine. Do you think they could have read that stuff he wrote and still want to have him around? You really think that DCP and the rest are a bunch of coarse machos who would just laugh along with Schryver and see no harm in his nastiness?