Boy, was I wrong

[Gadianton]

Again, if this were really about stopping harassment and improving discourse here at the cesspool, all offenders would have been duly chastened, no threats would have been made, and the matter would have gone no further than this board.

Non sequitur. So because folks at NAMI picked up on the complaints of harassment, this to your mind is proof that the intentions of MsJack go well beyond what she stated?

Speaking of non sequiturs, my comments weren't specific to MSJack. In fact, it would be obvious to the careful reader that my comments were in general to this board, and had in mind the myriad of anti-Will threads, many of which Msjack wasn't a participant. So, why you would ask this of me, is anyone's guess.

Yeah, just keep illustrating why you're an idiot wade.

let's see...you jump to a false conclusion about what I said, and somehow that makes me the idiot. Yes, that seems to fit perfectly the way your "mind" operates.

As Bokovoy just said, some LDS scholars regularly lurk here and they were disgusted by Will's behavior. All MsJack did was provide a compiled list of Schryver citations, and that list could be doubled now that the matter has been dragged out even further. LDS scholars came across it and decided they didn't want Schryver's name connected with the NAMI.

I am glad to see that you are now in such close ties and graces with LDS apologetics and Msjack as to be privy to what all was involved in the decision. You are indisputably the expert on what everyone else is thinking and doing. Case solved. Chief Inspector Jacques Clauseau Graham has arrived.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_wenglund]

Do you think peeing in a cesspool is a serious offense?

Of course he doesn't. He's one of the largest contributors of piss and s*** on this forum. The very act of complaining about a cesspool is his latest golden shower.

It never ceases to amaze me that people like Wade love to complain about the things he does most. What are ya gonna do?

Would someone kindly clue Schmo into the fact that I wasn't the one complaining about someone peeing in the cesspool. Schmo obviously has more trouble than many here with correctly grasping analogies.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_Chap]

As Bokovoy just said, some LDS scholars regularly lurk here and they were disgusted by Will's behavior. All MsJack did was provide a compiled list of Schryver citations, and that list could be doubled now that the matter has been dragged out even further. LDS scholars came across it and decided they didn't want Schryver's name connected with the NAMI.

I am glad to see that you are now in such close ties and graces with LDS apologetics and Msjack as to be privy to what all was involved in the decision. You are indisputably the expert on what everyone else is thinking and doing. Case solved. Chief Inspector Jacques Clauseau has arrived.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Clearly we have to remind wenglund how we know what happened. Or does he think David Bokovoy is a Dr Scratch sockpuppet? Or that this post was faked by a moderator? Goodness only knows ...

Right. But, how did they come across what Will had posted? (Remember, Will felt betrayed by Bokovoy and Hauglid for a reason)

For the record, in response to the fact that my name continues to surface in these discussions, I received the following email from a person officially connected with the Institute who occasionally lurks here and at MA&D. I've omitted a brief section of the email which identifies the individual. I share this to establish once and for all my lack of involvement in this affair.

Hi David,

I'm sorry you got dragged into this Will Schryver mess.

Just between you and me I did share some concerns with Jerry Bradford about Will's online behavior.

It was decided that his behavior was not in keeping with the high standards of the Maxwell name.

So he will be publishing his research through another publishing venue... I followed my conscious. I'm more concerned about the reputation of the Institute.

All the best to you.

[_wenglund]

You were responding to the topic of sexual harassment. Try to keep up.

Response in this case certainly doesn't equal agreement with the alleged topic. Read and learn.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_Buffalo]

You were responding to the topic of sexual harassment. Try to keep up.

Response in this case certainly doesn't equal agreement with the alleged topic. Read and learn.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

It's okay, Wade. I know you have a communication problem - it's no biggie.

[_wenglund]

Clearly we have to remind wenglund how we know what happened. Or does he think David Bokovoy is a Dr Scratch sockpuppet? Or that this post was faked by a moderator? Goodness only knows ...

While Chap is busy reminding me of things I am now well aware of, maybe he can clue himself in on things he may not be aware of. For instance, an impression, given in an email from an anonymous source, that is at best second-hand to the decision in question, posted here third-hand, may not tell us all of what was involved in the decision in question.

And, if Chap and others here would take pause for a moment from their thoughtless and non-introspective scoffing, and reflect upon whether what was written by Will years ago on a relatively obscure board, and is known about even today by but a relatively few people on this and maybe the other board, would raise sufficient concern as to warrant dropping an article in that journal--keeping in mind that other writers, like Dr. Peterson and Dr. Gee, continue to publish in that journal even though some here have accused them of all sorts of unsavory practices, and have devoted thread after thread to smearing their reputations. If it doesn't quite add up, you may wounder why? Maybe the parties involved with the alleged threats will step forward and openly admitted what they have done. Or not.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_wenglund]

It's okay, Wade. I know you have a communication problem - it's no biggie.

You managed to deflect healthy introspection while falsely projecting. That was quite a feat, even for you. Kevin Graham must be teaching you well.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_Droopy]

Again, if this were really about stopping harassment and improving discourse here at the cesspool, all offenders would have been duly chastened, no threats would have been made, and the matter would have gone no further than this board.

Precisely. Will's "online behavior" has functioned for some weeks now as a wonderful and effective pretext justifying an all out assault on Will's character and personal integrity that has now run to 63 pages of character assassination supported and abetted by many among the most egregious in the sustained presentation of posts, language, and subject matter equal to, and in many cases well beyond, anything Will has ever written online.

The fractional quantity of such posts by William relative to his entire online posting history can also be compared/contrasted to the truly large corpus of High School jock locker room vulgarity and flaming profanations that have been lobbed here on a continual basis by various posters since this board's inception.

My hypocrisy Richter scale needs to be recalibrated, because the pointer is stuck off the scale.

Fascinating to consider is the real fear Will's work on the Book of Abraham, regardless of what its deficiencies and weaknesses may or may not be, has inspired here among the external anti-Mormon critics, but especially among the apostate "exmo" segment of the MDB population, who find in such work what is apparently a mortal threat to their adopted post-LDS worldview such that very little, in the way of ethics or decency will stop their march to the attempted personal destruction of a "mopologist."

Will has, indeed, pushed your buttons, and some of those buttons launched missiles that were apparently nuclear tipped.

[Guest]

Again, if this were really about stopping harassment and improving discourse here at the cesspool, all offenders would have been duly chastened, no threats would have been made, and the matter would have gone no further than this board.

Non sequitur. So because folks at NAMI picked up on the complaints of harassment, this to your mind is proof that the intentions of MsJack go well beyond what she stated? Yeah, just keep illustrating why you're an idiot wade.

As the exmo Chatty Kathy Doll from hell so eloquently demonstrates here, Wade's analysis, far from being a non-sequitur (which Kevin clearly doesn't understand involves a logical relation between premises and conclusion in an argument), points to a deep disconnect between the stated motives of the OP (to openly express moral outrage at Will's allegedly morally obnoxious and despicable behavior online) and the actual behavior of many of his detractors here, not to mention the general demeanor of the board qua the board.

Bring Paul Osborne, Kevin Graham, PP, Kishkumen, Nortinski, Cam, Some Schmo, Scratch, etc., etc., etc., etc., into this grand inquisition and we might be able to start discussing some degree of credibility.

[_Kevin Graham]

The only reason it ran to 63 pages was due to the idiotic and desperate attempts by immoral morons, mostly comprised of Schryver sock puppets, trying to either downplay, excuse or justify his behavior.

Don't forget that.