Boy, was I wrong

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_wenglund
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Re: Boy, was I wrong

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Kevin Graham wrote:
If Bokovoy was not involved, why was he being sent these emails?


Obviously because Will Schryver got him involved. Will sent emails out to various LDS scholars, trying to probe them for more information about what he assumed Bokovoy was saying about him. But Bokovoy wasn't saying anything about him, and these scholars thought Will's behavior was strange, and so they emailed Bokovoy to inform him of what Schryver was up to.

And, how would Kevin Graham know what Bokovoy was sent?


Because he told me.

You're so slow wade, always at least four miles behind the rest of the pack.


Evidently the subtle point of my questions escaped you (which is, as always, ironic given your last sentence above).

Besides, if you look very carefully at your own statement, you spoke of "their efforts"--which you alledged Will was to preempt by writing to "numerous LDS scholars." Last time I checked, David Bokovoy is only one person. Who else were you referring to in using the plural "their"?

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Re: Boy, was I wrong

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You seem to be conflating two different "affairs": the emails Bokovoy received notifying him that Will was querying people about his loyalty, etc., and the "affair" wherein Will accused David of ratting him out to the NAMI people.



I'm conflating neither. I'm talking about the letter received by both Wade and David from a source containing a head's up on a possible plan to blackball the MI if they tried to publish any of Will's scholarly work.
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Re: Boy, was I wrong

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tellectual hacks do when their cornered is...lob insults,

CORNERED??? I explain something as easy as 2+2 to most children, and you're still trying to pretend there is "more to the story" based on.... wade's so-called informant which he has pretty much admitted was wrong! We already know it was Hauglid, not a bunch of apostates, who brought the matter before the NAMI folks. Wade was dupes by another Schryver pseudonym.You're always late for the party as always droopy.
tly, there is just a bit more to it than your carefully sanitized version:

My version is the only version that matters because I'm not the moron relying on some anonymous informant making idiotic claims that don't hold a drop of water. BEsides, what did wade's informant really say that contradicts what I said? Wade's informant says nothing about Bokovoy. In fact, it pretty much contradicts the paranoid mantra that came from Schryver when he tried to implicate Bokovoy before.
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Besides, if you look very carefully at your own statement, you spoke of "their efforts"--which you alledged Will was to preempt by writing to "numerous LDS scholars." Last time I checked, David Bokovoy is only one person. Who else were you referring to in using the plural "their"?

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I think Graham just gave away the game.
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_Kishkumen
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Re: Boy, was I wrong

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Droopy wrote:Given the list of names that appear, the concept is at the very least plausible, and given the inherent nature of anti-Mormonism over generations of time, the concept is banal.


I challenge you to come up with a comparable 20th- or 21rst-century conspiracy involving such a disparate group of Never-Mormons and ex-Mormons both theist and atheist, combining against a single apologist to prevent his work from being published. Thanks in advance.

One look at the list of names lays bare the absurdity of the whole idea.
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It was clear from the moment droopy spoke, that he was completely lost on the subject, and it was also expected that he would never admit being wrong. I suspect wade will admit being wrong before droops.

The fact is there is absolutely no evidence that wade ever received an anonymous email to begin with. None. What he says it contained, makes absolutely no sense. And it doesn't even contradict my "sanitized" version in the first place! But the idea of us all conspiring together to blackball poor Schryver is just too good for a someone like droopy to pass up. It just has to be true. He needs it to be true. This is the same moron who thinks the left is controlling the media, Soros is controlling the world, and that Glenn Beck is a reasonable fella.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Droopy wrote:Given the list of names that appear, the concept is at the very least plausible, and given the inherent nature of anti-Mormonism over generations of time, the concept is banal.


I challenge you to come up with a comparable 20th- or 21rst-century conspiracy involving such a disparate group of Never-Mormons and ex-Mormons both theist and atheist, combining against a single apologist to prevent his work from being published. Thanks in advance.

One look at the list of names lays bare the absurdity of the whole idea.

I was disappointed to be omitted.
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CORNERED??? I explain something as easy as 2+2 to most children, and you're still trying to pretend there is "more to the story" based on.... wade's so-called informant which he has pretty much admitted was wrong! We already know it was Hauglid, not a bunch of apostates, who brought the matter before the NAMI folks.


"Pretty much." Why the weasel words?

Wade was dupes by another Schryver pseudonym.You're always late for the party as always droopy.


Bare assertion. You're clearly making it up as you go along, and no matter how much you pose, the emperor is clearly buck naked.

My version is the only version that matters because I'm not the moron relying on some anonymous informant making idiotic claims that don't hold a drop of water. BEsides, what did wade's informant really say that contradicts what I said? Wade's informant says nothing about Bokovoy. In fact, it pretty much contradicts the paranoid mantra that came from Schryver when he tried to implicate Bokovoy before.


He named a number of posters here who were conspiring to blackball the MI over Will's Book of Abraham work.

See Kevin.
See Kevin's red face
See Kevin run
See Kevin trip and fall over pants as they settle around his ankles...
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_wenglund
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Re: Boy, was I wrong

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Kevin Graham wrote: Coming from the king of morons, this is hardly surprising. You infer all sorts of dumb s*** all the time. You're the same guy who thinks there is some "odd" conspiracy going on based on wade's idiotic analysis of Bokovoy's comments when a basic understanding of logic requires no conspiracy at all.


Speaking of moronic and idiotic, could you please do your best to describe for me my supposed analysis of Bokovoy's comments? From what I remember, I simply asked some investigative questions, the subtle point of which was evidently lost on you.

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Re: Boy, was I wrong

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malkie wrote:I was disappointed to be omitted.


Oops! You caught me stacking the deck in my favor.

After all, we all know of the numerous conspiracies of Never-Mormons, Ex-Mormons, and Mormons against single apologists to prevent their work from being published! Damn you, malkie. You gave it all away. The jig is up.
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