Boy, was I wrong

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_Droopy
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Re: Boy, was I wrong

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One look at the list of names lays bare the absurdity of the whole idea.


Like Bro. Bokovoy, I received an email from a source who will remain anonymous, that essentially said that a group of MDers (including MsJack, harmony, beastie, Kevin Graham, Doctor Scratch, MrStakhanovite, and Spurven Ten Sing, among others), conspired together. They threatened the MI by saying that, if the MI published Will's work, they would go public in a major way with their allegations—contacting newspapers, other ex-Mormon sites, various blogs, etc.


Your statement above does provide some comedy relief to an otherwise dreary and trying discussion, and for that, I thank you.
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_malkie
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Re: Boy, was I wrong

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Kishkumen wrote:
malkie wrote:I was disappointed to be omitted.


Oops! You caught me stacking the deck in my favor.

After all, we all know of the numerous conspiracies of Never-Mormons, Ex-Mormons, and Mormons against single apologists to prevent their work from being published! Damn you, malkie. You gave it all away. The jig is up.

Sorry that I stupidly and tactlessly blurted out the truth ...
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Re: Boy, was I wrong

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Besides, if you look very carefully at your own statement, you spoke of "their efforts"--which you alledged Will was to preempt by writing to "numerous LDS scholars."


So? How does this change the fact that Bokovoy was not involved until Will got him involved? Quickly, claim I'm missing your ever elusive point, because you're so smart!

Last time I checked, David Bokovoy is only one person. Who else were you referring to in using the plural "their"?


I wasn't referring to Bokovoy at all! This was Will's initial mistake. He assumed I was referring to Bokovoy months ago when I referred to multiple apologists and scholars working against him.

Jesus, even by adding your two IQs together you're still not hitting triple digits... you can't understand something so simple? You're failure to attain cognition is pretty funny, but also sad.

Bokovoy was not involved. Will
_Kishkumen
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Re: Boy, was I wrong

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Droopy wrote:
...a group of MDers (including MsJack, harmony, beastie, Kevin Graham, Doctor Scratch, MrStakhanovite, and Spurven Ten Sing, among others), conspired together. They threatened the MI by saying that, if the MI published Will's work, they would go public in a major way with their allegations—contacting newspapers, other ex-Mormon sites, various blogs, etc.


Your statement above does provide some comedy relief to an otherwise dreary and trying discussion, and for that, I thank you.


Hey, I guess we're both winners, because your belief in this absurdity makes you look like a risible, credulous fool. At least we're both laughing, eh?
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_wenglund
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Re: Boy, was I wrong

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Kevin Graham wrote:Wade was dupes by another Schryver pseudonym.


CFR.

Wade's informant says nothing about Bokovoy.


And you know this how? (I am asking because I know for a fact that it is diametrically incorrect. I simply omitted mentioning that part of the email.)

I am only pressing you on all these points because of your penchant for calling people idiotic, moronic, and behind, and to help boost the unwavering confidence several MDer's have recently expressed regarding your legendary research and analytical skills. LOL

Thanks, -Wade Englund-
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Re: Boy, was I wrong

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See Kevin.
See Kevin's red face
See Kevin run
See Kevin trip and fall over pants as they settle around his ankles...



See now you are just running away as expected. You refuse to deal with the fact that you were too dumb to understand what was being said, and you were too dumb to understand that nothing wade presented contradicted what I said.

Here are the facts:

1. We know William Schryver accused Bokovoy of trying to hamstring his apologetic efforts and we know Bokovoy has denied it from start to finish. William was always the one who dragged Bokovoy into this. Several scholars turned on Will and sided with Bokovoy on this.
2. We know NAMI was contacted by LDS folks who were upset with Will's behavior, particularly Brian Hauglid. So to ow it was a bunch of apostates, based on some mysterious and anonymous informant, is just committing intellectual suicide.

You have no case to be made. None. And I'm not even sure you know what case there is that you'd like to make, since you seem oblivious to what is going on, as usual. You're just demonstrating your knee-jerk reaction to apologetic and apostate remarks. You immediately jump to the side of your tribe member and immediately attack the apostate, long before you ever read what has actually been said. If you had take a few minutes to review the statements, I doubt you would have spoken up at all. But making a fool of yourself is what you do best. Calling what I said a "sanitized" version, simply because wade has an anonymous source who doesn't even contradict what I say anyway, is pretty damn hilarious.
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Re: Boy, was I wrong

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Kevin Graham wrote:It was clear from the moment droopy spoke, that he was completely lost on the subject, and it was also expected that he would never admit being wrong. I suspect wade will admit being wrong before droops.



Usually, from the moment Kevin begins speaking, everyone says, "Excuse me, but I just remembered I had an appointment with my exorcist and I'm a bit late. Got to go now..." Graham speaking about other people's credibility is just...just...

The fact is there is absolutely no evidence that wade ever received an anonymous email to begin with. None.


So Wade is a bald faced liar then?

What he says it contained, makes absolutely no sense.


It makes perfect sense, both grammatically and as to its plausibility, given some of the names therin.

And it doesn't even contradict my "sanitized" version in the first place! But the idea of us all conspiring together to blackball poor Schryver is just too good for a someone like droopy to pass up.


It is. Jack's whole hyperexaggerated witch hunt against William was itself contrived specifically for that purpose. And what of Mr. Graham? Kevin Graham stoop to such Stygian depths? Never I say, never!!!

It just has to be true. He needs it to be true. This is the same moron who thinks the left is controlling the media, Soros is controlling the world, and that Glenn Beck is a reasonable fella.


I think you're an utter intellectual and moral fraud hiding behind mask after mask of psychological defense mechanisms, some of which we may, one day, see come off and reveal something of substance and authenticity beneath.
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_Kishkumen
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Re: Boy, was I wrong

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wenglund wrote:(I am asking because I know for a fact that it is diametrically incorrect...


Please explain to me how he can be "diametrically incorrect." Does he have the wrong diameter? Thanks.
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_Droopy
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Re: Boy, was I wrong

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Kevin Graham wrote:
See Kevin.
See Kevin's red face
See Kevin run
See Kevin trip and fall over pants as they settle around his ankles...



See now you are just running away as expected. You refuse to deal with the fact that you were too dumb to understand what was being said, and you were too dumb to understand that nothing wade presented contradicted what I said.

Here are the facts:

1. We know William Schryver accused Bokovoy of trying to hamstring his apologetic efforts and we know Bokovoy has denied it from start to finish. William was always the one who dragged Bokovoy into this. Several scholars turned on Will and sided with Bokovoy on this.
2. We know NAMI was contacted by LDS folks who were upset with Will's behavior, particularly Brian Hauglid. So to ow it was a bunch of apostates, based on some mysterious and anonymous informant, is just committing intellectual suicide.

You have no case to be made. None. And I'm not even sure you know what case there is that you'd like to make, since you seem oblivious to what is going on, as usual. You're just demonstrating your knee-jerk reaction to apologetic and apostate remarks. You immediately jump to the side of your tribe member and immediately attack the apostate, long before you ever read what has actually been said. If you had take a few minutes to review the statements, I doubt you would have spoken up at all. But making a fool of yourself is what you do best. Calling what I said a "sanitized" version, simply because wade has an anonymous source who doesn't even contradict what I say anyway, is pretty damn hilarious.



Like Bro. Bokovoy, I received an email from a source who will remain anonymous, that essentially said that a group of MDers (including MsJack, harmony, beastie, Kevin Graham, Doctor Scratch, MrStakhanovite, and Spurven Ten Sing, among others), conspired together. They threatened the MI by saying that, if the MI published Will's work, they would go public in a major way with their allegations—contacting newspapers, other ex-Mormon sites, various blogs, etc.



Check and mate. Calling Wade a liar while exonerating people with a long history of, let's say, palpable defects of character as manifested here and in other forums for many years, is not going to do. You can't explain this, can you?

Or, uh...can you?
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us

- President Ezra Taft Benson


I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.

- Thomas Sowell
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Re: Boy, was I wrong

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beastie wrote:I'm bumping this up in order to force Stak to give me credit, too.


You can never get too much credit beastie.
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