Joseph Smith mega thread. We'll see

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stemelbow wrote:
just me wrote:But, believing in a god who would be behind it all is 10 thousand times worse.


I hate to sound all that idiotic but whatever...why? I guess I'm too steeping in the "God knows far more than i do" mentality so I don't see that so easily.


Because having an abusive parent that rules the universe would be 10 thousand times worse than some human that I can ignore.

If the LDS version of god is true than god murders his own children, threatens to murder them, commands murder, commands stealing, genocide, lying, allows rape, spiritual abuse, emotional abuse, sex abuse, etc, etc, etc.

Did you reread all of D&C 132 yet?
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stemelbow wrote:
just me wrote:But, believing in a god who would be behind it all is 10 thousand times worse.


I hate to sound all that idiotic but whatever...why? I guess I'm too steeping in the "God knows far more than i do" mentality so I don't see that so easily.


In the scriptures we learn that there is a pretty clear standard of morality for us to follow - also that God also has to follow certain principles or he will cease to be god. Why would god be less moral than you?
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.

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stemelbow wrote:http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/54544-josephs-polygamy/

Man, you guys are whipping my caboose over here.

if you're interested I started a thread on MDD on the same topic (this one has been focused on)


I predict thread closure within 3 days.

That would be an extremely long time for a thread of that highly volatile nature to survive there.
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sock puppet wrote:That would be an extremely long time for a thread of that highly volatile nature to survive there.


I learned from LDS General Authorities that you should always give yourself as much wiggle room for error as possible when prophesying. ;)
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.

B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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Stem, have you given up on your thread here in favor of your thread over yonder?
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just me wrote:Stem, have you given up on your thread here in favor of your thread over yonder?


No, I haven't abandoned this thread. I'll get back to it. I am quite intrigued by Calmoriah's participation over there, so far though.
Love ya tons,
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Wow, that LeSellers guy is an asset to anti-Mormons everywhere.

Then those women need to understand that plural marriage primarily benefited women (and their children).

Under wide-spread Plural Marriage (or polygyny, in general), all women who want to marry can, but under the system of monogyny we live with today, not all women can marry, and many are left without husband, and without children. Many choose to become secret wives (“kept women”) and most of these cannot have children because it would blow their cover. Many others simply shack up with a guy with no contract for her (and their) support. Many choose the woeful state of "single mother" (and expect us to shower them with gifts and sympathy because of their wicked choices).

The ones who are truly harmed under polygyny are those men whose status and wealth are so low that no woman would have them as husbands.

Lehi
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.

B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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Stem, would it bother you if Smith had sex with every single one of his "wives?"
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HAHA! The thread from the other side has been closed. Was that even 3 hours?
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just me wrote:HAHA! The thread from the other side has been closed. Was that even 3 hours?


It happened within my three day prophesy. Truly I am a prophet of god. :D
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.

B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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