Telling my old mission comp...

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Hello,

The light cotton pressed up against his priesthood. He knew it was wrong, but somehow... Somehow...

It felt right.

Mormon lay...

V/R
Dr. Cam

[_jon]

Ask Zee about his spiritual confirmations about Athena.

We've already discussed an interview with two cult teens who received a spiritual confirmation that they were supposed to sleep with their leader (who they said was god).

So much for spiritual confirmations.

Ahh... I see. However the confirmations of some of these women were quite powerful. Not the standard warming of the bossom. And these confirmations came after a while...after the women orginally said no. And these women were not slackers and weak. Strong frontier women who would probably kick your butt around the block, if they found out you called them brainwashed in a cult.

So why me, would you say Polygamy was:
1. Doctrinal and should therefore be practiced today (Joseph Smith, Brigham Young)
2. Not Doctrinal and therefore should not be practiced today (Gordon B Hinkley)
or
3. Was Doctrinal for 60 'ish years, is not currently Doctrinal, but might be Doctrinal at some point in the future in this life or the next (Apologist)

[_just me]

Why Me, funny how you refuse to answer this direct question and instead focus on your random side comparisons. I'm going to ask again so you see it and hopefully have an opportunity to respond.

Are you trying to say that the spiritual confirmation of a Buddhist/Catholic/Evangelical/Jew/Heavens Gater/Baptist/Jehovah's Witness/etc is not the same as the spiritual confirmation of a Mormon? Care to explain the difference to me?

[_Buffalo]

Even Droopy doesn't recognize your concept of what Mormonism is.

I'm glad you were able to convince yourself that magic is real. I guess it didn't help, though, did it? I mean, the Book of Mormon says that your current church is the church of the devil.

No! Droopy doesn't recognize my concept of Mormonism? No way!I am devastated.

I didn't need convincing. It happened. End of story. If it didn't happen I would have high tailed it away from Mormonism faster than you can say lickitysplit. But...I experienced the confirmation just as these women did. And that made all the difference.

What difference did it make, other than motivating you, a Catholic, to defend a faith you don't understand on the internet?

As to your experience, I think Tarski said it best:

The spirit is a mainly garden variety neurochemical phenomenon together with a learned error of attribution.

"Wow, the sunshine is nice today.......the church is true!"

[_Buffalo]

I was referring to a general confirmation from the holy ghost. My confirmation that the Book of Mormon was true did not come from a 'cultish' experience as some posters here are claiming for these women. These women experienced something very powerful to get them to change their minds in being sealed to Joseph Smith and that was a powerful witness that the principle was true.

The spirit is a mainly garden variety neurochemical phenomenon together with a learned error of attribution.

"Wow, the sunshine is nice today.......the church is true!"

[_Buffalo]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Actually, I really don't see the difference. Murdering innocent people is pretty awful no matter their skin tone. Doncha think?

And yet no allied general or politician were ever tried for war crimes as the Germans were. You are right, it was murder.

But very few today know the agony of the germans who were experiencing such fire bombings. Thousands and thousands of innocent people ( children, the elderly, the young, men and women) were instantly engulfed in fire infernos. No war crime was charged to the american and british armies.

Comparisons can always be made. The world is full of comparisons. But in the end, they don't disprove the other side. For for critics like yourself, you never tire of them.

The winners in war don't have to pay for their crimes.

[_just me]

The winners in war don't have to pay for their crimes.

Preach!

[_sock puppet]

I was referring to a general confirmation from the holy ghost.

See, that's the problem. It's general enough that the HG could have been telling you that Rocky Road is a better ice cream flavor than Vanilla. It was man that misled you by convincing you that your confirmation was directed at Mormonism.

[_Themis]

I was referring to a general confirmation from the holy ghost. My confirmation that the Book of Mormon was true did not come from a 'cultish' experience as some posters here are claiming for these women. These women experienced something very powerful to get them to change their minds in being sealed to Joseph Smith and that was a powerful witness that the principle was true.

I see whyme is avioding the issue as usual. Explain how your expereince is similar to some of the women who married Joseph but different then all the others who only have different conclusions and beliefs based on theirs? by the way to be fair to whyme, no apologist or member who maintains their is a difference has really dealt with this issue either.

[_why me]

The winners in war don't have to pay for their crimes.

This is true enough. Nor do they have to answer for their crimes. Lets look at Isreal. Recently they killed several protestors who were threatening to cross into Isreali controlled land. They shot them dead. No problem. no outcry. And certainly comparisons can be made that would not be too favorable for Isreal. But no comparisons are made nor are they encouraged.

And yet, we can make comparisons that would equate such a policy with other evils that are man made.