Nemesis, Satan and the Plan of Salvation.

[_3sheets2thewind]

There are about two options one can consider when trying to figure out what Satan offered as his plan of salvation for everyone.

One suggestion is that life would be a complete free-for-all and that in the end Satan would save everyone regardless of what they did.

The second option is that Satan would force everyone to act a certain way, thus, removing all agency.

Agency being so vital to the LDS it would seem more likely that Satans plan was to remove all choice, to force certain behaviors.

I wonder if Nemesis has considered how what Nemesis has decided to do appears similar to Satans plan, force people to act a certain way by not allowing free of agency or choice.

A board owner is more than free to run their board as they see fit, but when that board owner takes it upon themself to invade another board and force his way of acting on the other board, well that is just too close to Satan's plan.

[_Buffalo]

Mormon leadership has a long history of trying to coerce the saints into obedience. They play lip service to god's plan, but in practice they seem to prefer the competition.

[_just me]

How is God's plan really about free choice?

God says "follow me or I will destroy you."

Satan either said "do what you want and get back with HF" or "Follow him, no choice."

I have seen speculation that the Jesus Plan was chosen because their were spirits that were not celestial material from the beginning. Satan's Plan would have allowed those non-celestial being to attain celestial glory. The Jesus Plan made a way to prevent the non-celestial beings from attaining that glory.

If you think about it, it makes some sense. Why would a third part of the spirit children go with Satan's Plan knowing they would be punished by not receiving bodies? Well, if they knew they wouldn't be getting them under the Jesus Plan anyway....

So, that was random. My point is that the Jesus Plan isn't all about free choice or free speech, either, according to LDS thought.

[_Chap]

This exchange as the thread closed on the MAD board is enlightening:

Posted An hour ago

View PostMs. Jack, on 07 June 2011 - 08:53 AM, said:
What I "did" to him? I didn't "do" anything to William Schryver. He did it to himself.

And no, I took no "glee" in exposing what he was doing. Ask my husband. The time I spent combing through William's posts and compiling all the things he said about women made me want to throw up. I frequently had to step away from my computer and regroup with him about how awful it all was.

You want to know what really made me want to throw up, though?

That it wasn't one of you who stood up to him.

Good luck with your hypocrisy hunt. You're going to need it.

None of them are there if it originated here we would have, I would have. There is no defense for the indefensible. by the way they can attack me all they want as they have. I'm a nobody so it doesn't affect me.

Nemesis

Conclusions:

(a) Nemesis in in an odd mental state - what on earth does the bolded text mean?

(b) This really does sound like Juliann: "they can attack me all they want".

[_truth dancer]

While obviously, the MDD board is not for me, I think it quite reasonable actually, for Juliann and Dan to ban anyone they do not like.

It is a private board and why would they tolerate someone they dislike? Or thoughts that are uncomfortable?

Of course, I enjoy a board where all voices are welcome, and appreciate Shades for creating this minimally moderated board, still, if I were hosting an LDS apologetic board, I would think it wise to only have the "voice," I want to hear.

~td~

[_3sheets2thewind]

While obviously, the MDD board is not for me, I think it quite reasonable actually, for Juliann and Dan to ban anyone they do not like.

It is a private board and why would they tolerate someone they dislike? Or thoughts that are uncomfortable?

Of course, I enjoy a board where all voices are welcome, and appreciate Shades for creating this minimally moderated board, still, if I were hosting an LDS apologetic board, I would think it wise to only have the "voice," I want to hear.

~td~

I agree, but done prance around saying you support free speech and claim that your definition of free speech is the same as the government.

I agree a private board should what it wants on ITS private board but when it seeks to attack another board, those good christian attackers become minions of the nether world.

[_Buffalo]

How is God's plan really about free choice?

God says "follow me or I will destroy you."

Satan either said "do what you want and get back with HF" or "Follow him, no choice."

I have seen speculation that the Jesus Plan was chosen because their were spirits that were not celestial material from the beginning. Satan's Plan would have allowed those non-celestial being to attain celestial glory. The Jesus Plan made a way to prevent the non-celestial beings from attaining that glory.

If you think about it, it makes some sense. Why would a third part of the spirit children go with Satan's Plan knowing they would be punished by not receiving bodies? Well, if they knew they wouldn't be getting them under the Jesus Plan anyway....

So, that was random. My point is that the Jesus Plan isn't all about free choice or free speech, either, according to LDS thought.

Good point. Maybe all this time we were following Satan. Maybe Satan actually inspired the Bible and the LDS scriptures, and he's somehow managed to silence God all this time. That would explain a lot!