More Creepiness and Lying from Simon Belmont

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More Creepiness and Lying from Simon Belmont

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On the current thread dealing with the apologists' posting of lewd and pornographic comments about Kevin Graham's children, Kevin made the following observation:

Kevin Graham wrote:A couple weeks ago Simon had told everyone on the forum that most of my Facebook photos were without a shirt. Well, this was the only photo, out of perhaps six dozen, that showed me with no shirt on. I'm guessing his comments prompted someone to go look up my Facebook account. That's where the photo was taken from.


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In response to this, I mused:

Dr. Scratch wrote:That's because Simon has been using Facebook to gather "intel" on critics. He's posted family pictures of people before, on the various iterations of his blog. By now his history of blowing up and doing stupid things has been well established. I don't know whether he was responsible for the meme, but it wouldn't surprise me. Even if he didn't do the actual meme, I'd be willing to bet that he circulated that image amongst his TBM pals


To which Simon replied:

S. Belmont wrote:When I saw that you had posted on this thread, my first thought was "Scratch will probably pin this on me."

I was correct.

For the record, and I know Scratch will attempt to cause more contention: I had nothing to do with this. I did not use Facebook to gather "intel" on critics. I did not see Kevin Graham's Facebook until he added me as a friend a couple of days ago. The joke about him being shirtless was just that, a joke, I had not seen his Facebook at that time. Again, I had nothing to do with this and condemn it with everything I can. It is despicable for anyone to engage in this behavior.
(emphasis mine)

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So, a couple of observations here:

1. First of all, I didn't "pin" it on you, Simon. I said, "I don't know whether he was responsible for the meme, but it wouldn't surprise me."

2. The post where Simon first claimed to have seen images of Kevin "sans shirt" is here:

http://www.mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3 ... 22#p457622

Simon wrote:Incidentally, for lots of photos of Kevin sans shirt, look him up on Facebook.


LOL!


The date of this post, by the way, is May 23rd, which is important because:

3. The date Simon announced his Facebook page was May 25th, here:

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So, what's going on here? I noted above that I think Simon has been using Facebook as a means of gathering "intel" on critics, and indeed, as Kevin noted, it seems like an awfully peculiar coincidence that Simon would make a post about a shirtless Kevin, only to have this image surface as the meme in this war on critics. Bear in mind, too, that Kevin has been the object of some of Simon's rather obsessive anger--e.g., Simon's continuously calling him "Angry McAngerton," etc. In other words, Kevin is precisely the sort of critic (rather like Brent Metcalfe, with whom it's already been established that Simon has been stalking, clear back to his datacycle days on ZLMB) that Simon would "investigate."

For me the big question is: How extensive was Simon's role in this latest round of shenanigans? If anything, I think this shows yet again just how deceptive Simon is. While I rather doubt that Simon himself was posting the lewd and vulgar material, it wouldn't surprise me if the photo's appearance on memegenerator was a direct result of Simon's cyberstalking campaign. It's not too much of a leap to think that Simon may have harvested the image and then passed it along to, say, Droopy, who perhaps hates Kevin more than any TBM aside from Pahoran or Will Schryver.
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Re: More Creepiness and Lying from Simon Belmont

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Wait, wait, wait....are you saying SB lies?? Please tell me you don't believe he would say things that were untrue on this forum (gasp!)...I would be shocked if he actually felt the need to stoop to such lowly and unchristlike methods to defend himself and his self-appointed position as a voice of morality...no "happy" member of the LDS "church" is THAT insecure and pathetic...right?
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Re: More Creepiness and Lying from Simon Belmont

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schreech wrote:Wait, wait, wait....are you saying SB lies?? Please tell me you don't believe he would say things that were untrue on this forum (gasp!)...I would be shocked if he actually felt the need to stoop to such lowly and unchristlike methods to defend himself and his self-appointed position as a voice of morality...no "happy" member of the LDS "church" is THAT insecure and pathetic...right?


See: the thing is that Nemesis asked for help in trying to track down whoever was responsible for the KG memes. Well, they know who Simon Belmont is. (Or else, they know who "Skywalker/Oxygenadam" is, which means they know who Simon Belmont is.) If Nemesis is genuinely interested in helping, I would assume that he'd look into this in more detail.
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I have said it before, and I will say it again:

I am not in the least bit surprised that Scratch would attempt to blame me for this disgusting behavior. He hates me because he can't scare me into submission, and because he thinks I am a "Mopologist." He also hates me because I admire Dr. Peterson, his arch nemesis.

I did not visit Memegenerator.com, and did not know about it until the SGW incident. I found the behavior puerile and deplorable then, and I certainly do now. I denounce this type of behavior with ever fiber of my being. The attacks upon SGW, Juliann, and KG are wrong, and I would never do something like that.

It is true, however, that I said:

Simon Belmont wrote:Incidentally, for lots of photos of Kevin sans shirt, look him up on Facebook.


LOL!


An obvious joke that any right-minded person would easily recognize. I could have just as easily made the joke:

Hypothetical Simon wrote:Incidentally, for lots of photos of Kevin's pet canary, look him on Facebook

LOL!


For the record, I have not and do not use Facebook to "gather Intel" on anyone. Yes, I started an Facebook account (then deleted it) on May 25th, which is completely insignificant. And yes, I gave Kevin two endearing nicknames: "Angry McAngerton," and "KAGE," the second of which comes from the band Tenacious D.

And, for the record, I have been and am very confused as to why Scratch (and perhaps one other member of MDB) think I have a sock puppet over on the other board. I have no sock puppets. The only other moniker I've used is Datacycle, back on ZLMB.

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Re: More Creepiness and Lying from Simon Belmont

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I don't want to get involved in the tussle, but I thought Simon should have a theme song.

Here's my suggestion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA
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Re: More Creepiness and Lying from Simon Belmont

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Quasimodo wrote:I don't want to get involved in the tussle, but I thought Simon should have a theme song.

Here's my suggestion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA



Great song, Quasimodo. However, I think this song might be more appropriate for Simon:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMtZfW2z9dw
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Re: More Creepiness and Lying from Simon Belmont

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That's fine, Simon. As far as I'm concerned, this is really more an issue for Nemesis at the moment. Maybe he'll believe your story?
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Re: More Creepiness and Lying from Simon Belmont

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Doctor Scratch wrote: Maybe he'll believe your story?


Nemesis has had no interaction with me, nor does he know who I am. Why would he be interested in my "story?"
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Re: More Creepiness and Lying from Simon Belmont

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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Quasimodo wrote:I don't want to get involved in the tussle, but I thought Simon should have a theme song.

Here's my suggestion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA



Great song, Quasimodo. However, I think this song might be more appropriate for Simon:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMtZfW2z9dw


LOL! It's not the visual image I had of Simon, but maybe it will be from now on. hard to get those things out of your head, once you've seen them.
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Re: More Creepiness and Lying from Simon Belmont

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Simon Belmont wrote:
Doctor Scratch wrote: Maybe he'll believe your story?


Nemesis has had no interaction with me, nor does he know who I am. Why would he be interested in my "story?"


He wouldn't be.

Scratch, however, is annoyed that he is not he center of the latest board drama and so has decided to queen it up by throwing out random accusations so he and the voices in his head (i.e. his informants) feel involved.
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