Am I responsible for the "culture" of MormonDiscussions.com?

[_Buffalo]

Do you have any examples of misogyny from Cam?

LOTS

Let me rephrase: post your examples of misogyny from Cam.

[_sock puppet]

Do you have any examples of misogyny from Cam?

LOTS

Hey, Simon, let's see you prepare an OP about Cam along the lines of what MsJack prepared regarding Will Schryver's misogyny.

[_Kishkumen]

I agree. I have seen nothing Dr. Peterson has written, on SHIELDS, MDB, or anywhere else, that calls for a five year obsessive mission to ridicule, defame, and otherwise attack Dr. Peterson. I have not seen anything like what Scratch describes here:

He [DCP] just doesn't get it. (Or does he?) I guess he doesn't. He has overseen all kinds of very vicious personal attacks on people over the years---both in print, in the FARMS Review, and on various online venues (SHIELDS, Skinny-L, the various messageboards)---and he's had no problem sitting back and plumply laughing it up as his colleagues trash the reputations of Tom Murphy et al.

Where is it? I've read almost everything Dr. Peterson has written... I have seen nothing like this description. It's defamation and character assassination, and it's been going on for 5+ years.

The unjust thing is that Daniel is the special target of a lot of gratuitous and juvenile insults. Take for example, the habit of calling him "Professor Krispy Kreme." This kind of thing makes me shake my head. I take exception to it. It is extremely unkind and does not belong in adult interactions.

Having said that, I see a definite pattern in LDS apologetics of being very cutting toward those with whom they disagree. They have a habit of questioning the faith and intelligence of people with whom they have differences. Having set themselves up as the champions of the Brethren against people who don't appear to be toeing the line, they can be merciless in their denigration and derision of their chosen targets. In my book, there is no adequate defense of the decision to devote multiple negative reviews to a single book, to offer one small example.

The response to such criticism is more defensiveness and striking out. In other words, there are good reasons why apologists have come under attack. It does not excuse every criticism or attack, but to act as though these guys were just innocently going about their business when they were ambushed by evil apostates is ludicrous.

[_Simon Belmont]

Hey, Simon, let's see you prepare an OP about Cam along the lines of what MsJack prepared regarding Will Schryver's misogyny.

That would be a waste of time and effort. You can simply ask Jersey Girl.

[_Scottie]

What I find so funny is just how downright mean many of the apologists on MDD are, yet they are too blind to see it. It's always "the other guy" or "the other board".

It's okay for apologists to call names and belittle critics, especially when the critics can't fight back for fear of the ban-hammer.

So, Nemesis, are you responsible for the culture of YOUR board?

Yes, I do believe the "tone" of MDB is too harsh. I think we, as a community, could do a better job at decrying the mean spirited things people say.

[_Scottie]

I would ask this question: Is the US Government responsible for drunk driving deaths?

Many of you would say, "no, it is the responsibility of the person getting behind the wheel."

I say, for the most part, yes.

If the US Government changed the laws so that a DUI was a mandatory 10 years in prison, I can GUARANTEE that drunk driving would decrease by an extremely large percentage. As it is right now, a slap on the wrist is hardly worth a second thought for most people who get behind the wheel.

Would it stop all drunk driving? Probably not. But a) the deterrent would be enough to stop many from driving and b) those who are caught would be taken out of society for a long time.

So, while this is an extreme example, it illustrates how those who make the laws control the culture.

[_Jersey Girl]

Hey, Simon, let's see you prepare an OP about Cam along the lines of what MsJack prepared regarding Will Schryver's misogyny.

Do you doubt what Belmont is saying? Is that why you're asking or is it because you wish to see a litany of disgusting and vulgar insults reposted on this thread because it holds some sort of entertainment value to you and others?

[_Buffalo]

Hey, Simon, let's see you prepare an OP about Cam along the lines of what MsJack prepared regarding Will Schryver's misogyny.

Do you doubt what Belmont is saying? Is that why you're asking or is it because you wish to see a litany of disgusting and vulgar insults reposted on this thread because it holds some sort of entertainment value to you and others?

I haven't read them, or don't remember them. Are you saying Belmont is right? If so, shame on Cam.

[_Jersey Girl]

Buffalo

I haven't read them, or don't remember them. Are you saying Belmont is right? If so, shame on Cam.

Of course he's right, why do you think he keeps saying it?

[_Buffalo]

Buffalo

I haven't read them, or don't remember them. Are you saying Belmont is right? If so, shame on Cam.

Of course he's right, why do you think he keeps saying it?

Belmont? I wouldn't trust him not lie about the time of day. Consider the source.

I don't know much about you, but I'd be much more inclined to believe you than him.